More to the point, what is important to note is that the amount is less
important than the reproducibility.

The experimental protocol here is open -- unlike Rossi -- and the
simultaneous appearance of two "successes" by two separate teams points to
the possibility that they have, indeed, found an experimental protocol with
high reproducibility of the phenomenon.

As I understand it, we'll have to wait for about 6 days to see if the
effect goes away as it did with Celani.  If so, and if it happens with both
current experiments, we'll have more evidence that this protocol will
vastly accelerate the science.


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Akira Shirakawa
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On 2013-06-27 02:33, Mark Gibbs wrote:
>
>> So, as I understand from the data [1] over the test runs the US cell saw
>> a gain of about 4.9% (1.49W/30.25W) and the EU Cell saw about 6.1%
>> (1.82W/30.05W).
>>
>
> That's about what they've written in the 18:15 UTC update here:
> http://www.quantumheat.org/**index.php/en/follow/follow-2/**
> 295-simultaneous-test-runs-eu-**us<http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-2/295-simultaneous-test-runs-eu-us>
>
>
>  Both the EU Cells and the US Cells were switched on and BOTH indicated
>> excess energy as the cells came to equilibrium at higher temperatures than
>> during the calibration tests.  The EU cell with the active wire was
>> indicating up to 2.5W of excess power over the 30.4W input power (~6%
>> excess).  That is well above the 95% confidence limits for that cell
>> (~0.25W).  The US Cell was indicating approximately 1.4 watts excess,
>> again, well above the ~0.5W confidence interval.   Very exciting to see
>> something positive and especially simultaneous.
>>
>> The indicated excess seems to be corroborated by several cell
>> temperatures higher than calibration values.  The control cells in each
>> location are performing at or below calibration values.
>>
>> The internal cell temperatures seem to be slowly degrading, but the
>> external cell temperatures are holding steady.
>>
>> The resistance of the active wires is slowly rising as, presumably, the
>> hydrogen is leaving into the vacuum.
>>
>> The EU cell has been cycled already, leading to the the active wire
>> "unloading" and rising up to a higher resistance than the wire had
>> originally.
>>
>
> I think it's important to note that this is still preliminary data and
> that unexpected measurement artifacts might lurk somewhere.
>
> For example, it's still not clear whether or not hydrogen loading affects
> the way infrared radiation (thermal radiation is the main heat transfer
> mode in these vacuumed cells) from the heated wires and other internal
> components is thermalized by the transparent borosilicate glass tube, from
> whose external temperature, output power calculations get computed.
>
> Cheers,
> S.A.
>
>

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