So, as I understand from the data [1] over the test runs the US cell saw a
gain of about 4.9% (1.49W/30.25W) and the EU Cell saw about 6.1%
(1.82W/30.05W).

[mg]

[1] http://data.hugnetlab.com/


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:43 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi MarkG,****
>
> No, you’re not missing anything… a control cell producing some small
> amount of heat would result in a **conservative** (i.e., lower) estimate
> of power generated in the test cell… assuming that the test cell is at
> least several sigma above the control cell so experimental uncertainty was
> not a reasonable explanation for the excess.****
>
> -Mark I****
>
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> Gibbs
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:31 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of
> excess heat****
>
> ** **
>
> Am I missing something here? Surely if the control cell is producing some
> small amount of energy from an LENR process due to contamination but it's
> less than that being produced by the experimental cell then while a
> baseline might be hard or even impossible to establish wouldn't a
> significant power gain be detectable and verifiable?****
>
> ** **
>
> [mg]****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> Jones' point about ANY exposure to H is acknowledged...
>
> That being said, does anyone know the exact procedure by which the material
> in the control cell was prepared and the cell assembled??? Obviously, the
> nichrome wire was shipped to them, but was it exposed to air (humid air
> will
> supply plenty of H)?  How were the cells assembled?? I can't imagine that
> they were somehow assembled in a vacuum; perhaps in an inert gaseous
> environment??
>
> -Mark****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess
> heat****
>
> On 2013-06-27 00:42, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> > Whether or not nickel-hydride with 7% by atomic volume hydrogen will
> > give much net gain is debatable - but the  lack of hydrogen gas in the
> > cell after vacuum purge may not be enough for a good control (if the
> > nichrome was previously alloyed with hydrogen).
>
> The control cells have not been exposed to hydrogen yet. Are you suggesting
> that they might have been, inadvertently?
>
> Cheers,
> S.A.
>
> ****
>
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