"Are you saying these internal oscillatory frequencies of reactants change at different *rates* when raising OR lowering the temperature such that you can hit upon a common temperature where they oscillate at the same or harmonic of each other?"
EXACTLY. Your regurgitation of what I was trying to describe sounds sooo much better! J The problem is that the point where the internal oscillatory frequencies come into resonance is VERY specific and SHARP (very high Q-factor), thus, if you don't know what those temps are, you're likely to *never* encounter them and what you see is 'bulk' behavior consistent with current laws of physics. "IOW, is the pwm being used to fine tune an exact freq needed by the plasmons?" Don't limit it to just plasmons!! Does not any solid matter have plasmon/polariton/phonon oscillations going on. Each of these involve different aspects of the matter/lattice, and at different scales. Phonon (mechanical) oscillations may be affected by not only the lattice dimensions and bond strength, but also by the overall dimensions of the sample - what happens when there is a harmonic relationship between the lattice geometry/bonds and the thickness of the sample. and if considering a sample in 3D, what if there is a harmonic relationship between the phononic oscillations in ALL 3 dimensions and the dimensions/bonding strength between lattice atoms??? Is the phonon velocity and damping the same is all three dimensions???? To say that this kind of resonant condition would be very rare is an understatement! But when it does happen, I'll bet that current laws DO NOT APPLY. I don't know enough about each to speak intelligently, but this is a key question which perhaps someone more knowledgeable might be able to answer: - Does coupling of E from one type of oscillator to another (e.g., from plasmon to phonon) require them to come into a harmonic condition/resonance? My guess is YES. THE USUAL condition is that E is much more likely to couple between LIKE oscillators, but that it *CAN* couple to dislike oscillators if the right conditions are present. This would explain why the brute force nuclear reactions always generate daughter particle(s) + energetic *photons* which escape the material. Conditions are not such that the energy gets coupled into the lattice (phonons/polaritons). But if that harmonic relationship can be established, then the E would couple into the lattice as in LENR. Things to keep in mind are that there are physical oscillations which depend on physical dimensions, both overall and inter-atomic, and on bond strength; as well as NON-physical oscillators, such as a photon, since it isn't a physical thing. What is the transfer function between an IR photon and a phonon oscillation??? IF conditions are such that there is a coupling between IR photons and phonon oscillations, will the amount of E in a single IR photon be even enough to cause any signif diff in the phonon oscillations, and if so, would it be constructive or destructive interference?? The YouTube vids of acoustic vibrations of corn-starch show just how diverse and dramatic resonances can be. As to the rest of your posting, Jones, Axil and you are further down that rabbit hole than I, so I probably can't contribute much in detail. -Mark From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances... Hi Mark, Ok not cavities. Are you saying these internal oscillatory frequencies of reactants change at different rates when raising OR lowering the temperature such that you can hit upon a common temperature where they oscillate at the same or harmonic of each other? Still waiting for someone to put all the pieces together nicely but am seeing where this phenomena really is a perfect storm of balanced temperatures and resonances. Makes me wonder about the waveform used by Rossi again, does the IR freq of heaters shift a little or only pwm of the same frequency? IOW is the pwm being used to fine tune an exact freq needed by the plasmons .. If I understand the conjecture this linkage between IR and plasmon then enables the next coupling between the plasmon electron waves and photons above the wave surface. Also, I don't know if this is supposed to be interfacing directly with the odd spectrum blue light or is there yet another step..I know Axil and Jones mentioned silicon carbide as likely target for plasmon resonance but there doesn't seem to be a consensus on whether or how long fractional hydrogen can continue to exist once it leaves the Ni geometry that allows it to form. It would be nice to see the interface immediately since plasmons have this photonic ability but if not then what is the missing step? Anybody> Fran From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 12:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances... Mornin' Fran, If you're referring to Casimir cavities, then no. In this thread, I'm not thinking about NAEs or dislocations, but simply bulk matter (the referenced PhysOrg paper was methanol and an oxidant injected as very cold gasses, IIRC). Hard to put into words, but changing the temperature of two substances changes their internal oscillatory frequencies, but NOT by the same amount. Thus, as one adds (or REMOVES) heat, the two substances diverge further away from being in resonance. continue the process and their internal oscillatory frequencies will begin to converge and come into resonance. Unless you know the *exact* temperature are which the resonance occurs, you'd go right past it and never see anything unusual. ergo, the laws for bulk matter. That's why these scientists were so surprised at the 50x enhancement of reaction rates since the laws of bulk matter are incomplete. "If our results continue to show a similar increase in the reaction rate at very cold temperatures, then scientists have been severely underestimating the rates of formation and destruction of complex molecules, such as alcohols, in space" -Mark From: francis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 7:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: re: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances... I KEEP SAYING, ITS ALL ABOUT RESONANCES. Mark, so a lower temp correlates to a larger cavity? I am trying to imagine this but sticking on heat sinking vs heat emission, can heat sinking have a resonance where it sinks better? 50 times better? I like the concept but is there any foundation? Fran First, this will also tie in with Harry Veeder's posting earlier today titled: Subject: "[Vo]:MFMP and phonon resonance temperature of Cu" Here is the link to the article that is 'Yet Another Clue': "The quantum secret to alcohol reactions in space" http://phys.org/news/2013-06-quantum-secret-alcohol-reactions-space.html "Chemists have discovered that an 'impossible' reaction at cold temperatures actually occurs with vigour, which could change our understanding of how alcohols are formed and destroyed in space. To explain the impossible, the researchers propose that a quantum mechanical phenomenon, known as 'quantum tunnelling', is revving up the chemical reaction.
