Mark,
I don't think solid matter has much... aren't plasmons by
nature a surface effect? Metal powders, Skeletal cats would have the largest
surface areas while solid, bulk metal would only have the external surfaces...
I've always suspected something anomalous about surface areas in catalysts..the
way they explain a whole football field of surface area can be accounted for in
a small volume of bulk material and why it can absorb so much hydrogen..too
much hydrogen in my opinion - am inclined to believe they have been dealing
with fractional hydrogen a lot longer than they think and is how these new
hydrogen refueling prototypes are accomplishing their task.
Fran
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances...
"Are you saying these internal oscillatory frequencies of reactants change at
different *rates* when raising OR lowering the temperature such that you can
hit upon a common temperature where they oscillate at the same or harmonic of
each other?"
EXACTLY...
Your regurgitation of what I was trying to describe sounds sooo much better!
:)
The problem is that the point where the internal oscillatory frequencies come
into resonance is VERY specific and SHARP (very high Q-factor), thus, if you
don't know what those temps are, you're likely to *never* encounter them and
what you see is 'bulk' behavior consistent with current laws of physics...
"IOW, is the pwm being used to fine tune an exact freq needed by the plasmons?"
Don't limit it to just plasmons!!
Does not any solid matter have plasmon/polariton/phonon oscillations going on...
Each of these involve different aspects of the matter/lattice, and at different
scales. Phonon (mechanical) oscillations may be affected by not only the
lattice dimensions and bond strength, but also by the overall dimensions of the
sample - what happens when there is a harmonic relationship between the lattice
geometry/bonds and the thickness of the sample... and if considering a sample
in 3D, what if there is a harmonic relationship between the phononic
oscillations in ALL 3 dimensions and the dimensions/bonding strength between
lattice atoms??? Is the phonon velocity and damping the same is all three
dimensions???? To say that this kind of resonant condition would be very rare
is an understatement! But when it does happen, I'll bet that current laws DO
NOT APPLY...
I don't know enough about each to speak intelligently, but this is a key
question which perhaps someone more knowledgeable might be able to answer:
- Does coupling of E from one type of oscillator to another (e.g., from plasmon
to phonon) require them to come into a harmonic condition/resonance? My guess
is YES. THE USUAL condition is that E is much more likely to couple between
LIKE oscillators, but that it *CAN* couple to dislike oscillators if the right
conditions are present. This would explain why the brute force nuclear
reactions always generate daughter particle(s) + energetic *photons* which
escape the material. Conditions are not such that the energy gets coupled into
the lattice (phonons/polaritons)... But if that harmonic relationship can be
established, then the E would couple into the lattice as in LENR.
Things to keep in mind are that there are physical oscillations which depend on
physical dimensions, both overall and inter-atomic, and on bond strength; as
well as NON-physical oscillators, such as a photon, since it isn't a physical
thing. What is the transfer function between an IR photon and a phonon
oscillation??? IF conditions are such that there is a coupling between IR
photons and phonon oscillations, will the amount of E in a single IR photon be
even enough to cause any signif diff in the phonon oscillations, and if so,
would it be constructive or destructive interference?? The YouTube vids of
acoustic vibrations of corn-starch show just how diverse and dramatic
resonances can be...
As to the rest of your posting, Jones, Axil and you are further down that
rabbit hole than I, so I probably can't contribute much in detail...
-Mark
From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances...
Hi Mark,
Ok not cavities. Are you saying these internal oscillatory
frequencies of reactants change at different rates when raising OR lowering the
temperature such that you can hit upon a common temperature where they
oscillate at the same or harmonic of each other? Still waiting for someone to
put all the pieces together nicely but am seeing where this phenomena really is
a perfect storm of balanced temperatures and resonances. Makes me wonder about
the waveform used by Rossi again, does the IR freq of heaters shift a little or
only pwm of the same frequency? IOW is the pwm being used to fine tune an
exact freq needed by the plasmons .. If I understand the conjecture this
linkage between IR and plasmon then enables the next coupling between the
plasmon electron waves and photons above the wave surface. Also, I don't know
if this is supposed to be interfacing directly with the odd spectrum blue light
or is there yet another step..I know Axil and Jones mentioned silicon carbide
as likely target for plasmon resonance but there doesn't seem to be a consensus
on whether or how long fractional hydrogen can continue to exist once it leaves
the Ni geometry that allows it to form. It would be nice to see the interface
immediately since plasmons have this photonic ability but if not then what is
the missing step? Anybody>
Fran
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances...
Mornin' Fran,
If you're referring to Casimir cavities, then no.
In this thread, I'm not thinking about NAEs or dislocations, but simply bulk
matter (the referenced PhysOrg paper was methanol and an oxidant injected as
very cold gasses, IIRC)...
Hard to put into words, but changing the temperature of two substances changes
their internal oscillatory frequencies, but NOT by the same amount. Thus, as
one adds (or REMOVES) heat, the two substances diverge further away from being
in resonance... continue the process and their internal oscillatory frequencies
will begin to converge and come into resonance. Unless you know the *exact*
temperature are which the resonance occurs, you'd go right past it and never
see anything unusual... ergo, the laws for bulk matter. That's why these
scientists were so surprised at the 50x enhancement of reaction rates since the
laws of bulk matter are incomplete.
"If our results continue to show a similar increase in the reaction rate at
very cold temperatures, then scientists have been severely underestimating the
rates of formation and destruction of complex molecules, such as alcohols, in
space"
-Mark
From: francis [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 7:04 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: re: [Vo]:Of Reaction Rate and Resonances...
I KEEP SAYING, ITS ALL ABOUT RESONANCES.
Mark, so a lower temp correlates to a larger cavity? I am trying to imagine
this but sticking on heat sinking vs heat emission, can heat sinking have a
resonance where it sinks better? 50 times better? I like the concept but is
there any foundation?
Fran
First, this will also tie in with Harry Veeder's posting earlier today
titled:
Subject: "[Vo]:MFMP and phonon resonance temperature of Cu"
Here is the link to the article that is 'Yet Another Clue':
"The quantum secret to alcohol reactions in space"
http://phys.org/news/2013-06-quantum-secret-alcohol-reactions-space.html
"Chemists have discovered that an 'impossible' reaction at cold temperatures
actually occurs with vigour, which could change our understanding of how
alcohols are formed and destroyed in space. To explain the impossible, the
researchers propose that a quantum mechanical phenomenon, known as 'quantum
tunnelling', is revving up the chemical reaction.
