The radiation from hot fusion is unambiguous and well known. A source
of energy that does not produce this radiation when hydrogen is
present, but nevertheless is nuclear, is defined as LENR. Of course,
the definition I gave has to fit on a slide. The details would be
added verbally. Nevertheless, it defines the clear difference between
hot and cold fusion. That is all I'm asking people to acknowledge.
The definition does not require cold fusion to be understood. The
definition only shows where to look for the explanation. Hot fusion is
not the place to look.
Ed
On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
It seems to me that for this definition to work, even as a
phenomenological definition, something more would need to be added
regarding the "expected radiation". For example, one could say
"without the radiation expected from previous experiments in hot
fusion". However, clarifying it this way implies we have an
appropriate definition of "hot fusion" that is amenable to
distinguishing from cold fusion or LENR, or at least limiting its
scope. It seems that a reasonable definition of cold fusion needs a
companion re-definition of hot fusion.
For example, could hot fusion be described as being between 2 or
more nuclei, each being kinetically unconstrained with 6 degrees of
freedom within the atomic scale? Of course, some degrees of freedom
could be degenerate in symmetric nuclei. This would seem to apply
fine to a plasma. As the nuclei approach each other within an
atomic radius, externally applied fields would be insignificant in
the force balance on the nuclei.
While it seems we know this to be true for hot fusion, the converse
of this cannot necessarily be used to describe cases of cold fusion
because we don't really know the mechanism yet (hence the need for a
macroscopic definition). But at least it begins by limiting the
scope of hot fusion.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What are we talking about?
> (cold fusion [CF], LENR, CANR, LANR, CMNS, Fleischmann-Pons Effect)
> A nuclear process initiated on rare
> occasions in apparently ordinary
> material without application of
> significant energy that generates
> heat and nuclear products without
> expected radiation when any
> isotope of hydrogen is present.