Re:  Bets

Nicely put, Steven. RIP.
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On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:28 PM, DJ Cravens <[email protected]> wrote:

> yes, there is market inefficiency due to risk aversion.
> Black swans exist.
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> D2
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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:MFMP on a possible independent report of DGT's Hyperion
> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:09:49 -0500
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> From "Blaze":
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> > In terms of my credentials though, which might be more interesting,  I
> spent about the
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> > last 8 years or so on Intrade making buckets of money on making big bets
> on highly
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> > improbable events like this which came true.   The opportunities for
> profit there were
>
> > incredible. Some examples, I made money on Obama on McCain winning their
>
> > primaries by making early bets (admittedly though I had hedged a bit,
> but was over
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> > all long on them).
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> "Buckets of money." you say.
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> It's obvious to me that it takes a large and well-integrated skill set to
> make "buckets of money" betting on improbable events. (On a related note,
> one of my mutual funds is a "contra" fund. It often seems to do better than
> the average fund.)
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> On a related topic, earlier in my life I tried my hand in the commodity
> markets. I suspect trading commodities shares many similarities with the
> kind of skill set you have acquired. In a sense, the commodities you bet on
> are futures. It's anyone's guess whether the types of futures you buy into
> will ripen or go sour when it comes time to cash in.
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> As for me and my commodity trading adventures, I'll grant you that it was
> a fun and exciting time for me... while it lasted. Eventually, I lost all
> the money I had set aside for this adventure. I'm sure I lost it all due to
> my own lack of having acquired a sufficient collection of skill sets, and
> the fact that I didn't possess an appropriate psychological propensity for
> immediate "trading", and finally not having timely data in which to make
> proper assessments on whether to bury or short the commodity.
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>
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> I did manage to eventually rationalize my financial losses as having
> acquired some valuable experiences in the art of trading futures. It’s not
> for the faint of heart! Of course, while I paid my tuition fees I flunked
> the course. On cannot pass at everything they dabble in. ;-) In the
> aftermath I eventually learned that many professional commodity traders
> manage to stay in business because there's a constant influx of newbies
> (just like me) who come in with the goal of making money. What typically
> happens, however, is that the vast majority of these newbies end up
> transferring bulk of their bank accounts into the accounts of the
> professionals. An irony that did not escape me was the fact that the only
> way the professionals tend to stay in business is to constantly sell to
> naive newbies a manufactured hope that there is money to be made in trading
> futures. In fact, that's how all forms of professional gambling manage to
> survive. Granted, an extremely small percentage of brand new "newbie"
> traders actually DO end up become good at the skill, but as someone was
> known to have sed: A sucker is born every minute.
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>
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> In the end I think the biggest [moral] lesson I learned completing this
> particular course was to ask myself, what kind of a contribution was I
> actually making to the world? The more I thought about it, not very much. I
> then asked myself, what if I *had* become successful? What would I have
> then been able to put my grave stone?
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>
>
> *STEVEN VINCENT JOHNSON*
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> 1952 - 2031
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> HIs contribution to the world was that
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> he made a lot of money extracting it from the wallets of others
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> who were also trying to make a lot of money
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> attempting to do the same thing to him.
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> * * *
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> RIP
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> Just as in the fine art of betting, commodity trading works by profiting
> from the losses of others. Inculcating this realization did not set well
> with me. In a sense I actually became relieved of the fact that I had lost
> money. It meant that I had not profited from the financial losses of
> others. I realize this was a rationalization on my part. Nevertheless, my
> own "losses" left me with a clearer conscience.
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>
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> Based on my own memories I will grant you that it probably IS a rush to
> realize how smart one must be in order to take money (willing so) from
> others, and to be able to do it in a perfectly legal way! The fact is that
> a capitalistic economy needs transactional activity of this sort in order
> for the markets to remain dynamic and liquid. So... in a sense, THATS, the
> "service" traders and betters are contributing to the system. Hey! It's
> just money. ...hopefully, YOUR, money, and not mine. Nothing personal!
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> For some inexplicable reason, I don’t think I personally would feel
> comfortable advertising the acquisition of such a skill set on my
> gravestone.
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> But by all means, have fun with your "buckets of money."
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> Regards,
>
> Steven Vincent Johnson
>
> svjart.OrionWorks.com
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> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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> tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/
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