The spark (plasma activation mechanism) lasts for 12 seconds. The reaction
is then active for about 6 minutes. This cannot be a hot fusion mechanism.

The spark produces nanoparticles that are gradually consumed, It is LENR
for sure.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Chuck Sites <[email protected]> wrote:

> Very interesting discussions.  Thanks Axil for the two links in your
> earlier note..  I saw the video, but I wasn't aware of the paper
> presentation that described the isotopic shifts.   So far, it looks like a
> very convincing experiment that looks to have nuclear origins.   There are
> so many interesting points to bring up.  For example the high voltage
> pulses from the modified spark plugs.  That''s all secret IP, but at 10Kv
> pulsed, that has to be creating a plasma of hot H ions, and then assuming
> the Ni is the ground, it shouldn't surprise anyone that H ions are being
> accelerated into the NI nano powder.   10Kv is enough to circumvent
> the Coulomb barrier when you consider the screening potential of the
> metal's valence electrons.
>
> If that is the case, then this is more of a hot fusion processes, a
> controlled bombardment of the Ni/H lattice.  You can almost thing of the Ni
> as forming a scaffolding to hold in place the H ions, and as spark plugs
> pulse, wave after wave of hot H ions would be bombarding the Ni.  The fact
> that the cross section for a fusion event seems broad is unusual, but there
> may be more Ni + p reactions than p + p.
>
> Do you need Rydberg atoms to do that?  I would really like to read the Kim
> paper before dumping on the Rydberg concept,  but to me, this is an
> unnecessarily complex physics state to achieve in a solid state (or nano
> structure), when a simple hot fusion explanation might work.     So I'm
> kind of with Jed in my hesitation about accepting the whole presentation by
> Defkcalion.   Let me point out what is odd;   The stainless steel container
> that has heat transfer coil around it.  If you look at the diagrams, that
> should be pumped with hydrogen.  Shouldn't there be an electrically
> insulating barrier between the hydrogen (plasma) and the stainless steel?
>  If not then why isn't the H plasma interacting with the casing?
>
> Anyway, more food for thought.
> Best Regards folks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Arnaud Kodeck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  As said before by Jed, this is a full list of theoretical speculations
>>> put one after another one. There no experiments that confirm their
>>> speculations.
>>>
>>
>> This list is an informal discussion. There is no harm in saying anything
>> here. I am referring to a paper published by Defkalion in a physics
>> conference proceedings. That is a very different thing. The standards of
>> rigor should be higher for that.
>>
>>
>> ****
>>>
>>> Did they make any measurements about Rydberg hydrogen? The EM field that
>>> they are claiming should have been measured with precision. Or are they
>>> hiding the proof?
>>>
>>
>> I sure hope they did. Otherwise they should not mention it. But it isn't
>> enough to just measure things. You have to list the sources in parenthesis
>> and footnotes. For example, when Defkalion claimed that they used a variety
>> of nickel isotopes, they should have listed the mass and the source of the
>> isotopes. Isotopically pure samples are rare so you should list where you
>> got them and how pure they are, so that other people can judge your
>> results. This rule of thumb only applies to exotic materials. If it was
>> some material that you can get from any supply house, such as nickel wire,
>> there is no need to list the source.
>>
>> In the case of palladium you should always list the source, such as
>> Johnson Matthey. The source makes a big difference.
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> The Defkalion theory might be right to explain the excess heat of the
>>> hyperion. But it might be as well something else that produces the extra
>>> energy.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps. They claim they know the source of the heat. They should make a
>> careful, rigorous case in a paper to back this up.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I hope the realtime spectrometer they are building with R6 reactor will
>>> open our eyes to what’s going on inside.
>>>
>>
>> I hope so. (Question: Will it work for elements other than hydrogen and
>> helium? I have seen some light-element-only on-line spectrometers.)
>>
>>
>> I don’t blame Defkalion. They have made tremendous steps in the right
>>> direction, and given a lot of hints to the public.
>>>
>>
>> I think the presentation at ICCF17 and 18 were a little slack by the
>> standards of academic physics. There are many slack presentations at these
>> conferences. I think we should cut back on them, and relegate more of them
>> to the poster sessions.
>>
>> I cannot judge Kim's presentation. I gather (now) that it was supposed to
>> be the proof for Defkalion's claims. Perhaps it was. It is over my head. It
>> seems mostly theoretical rather than being based on experimental evidence.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
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