I would hope that a backup system would kick in if the grid went down.  Battery 
operation kept the Fukushima reactors safe for a few hours and had the diesels 
been functional, there might not have been such a mess.


There are varying levels and types of EMP to worry about.  EMP from a nuclear 
weapon most likely would behave quite differently from that sourced by a solar 
flare.  The EMP fields from nuclear weapons are instantaneously generated with 
the associated extremely rapid waveforms.  Is there any reason to suspect that 
those originating from a solar eruption would be similar?  My guess is that a 
large, long term, but slowly changing field would be easy to defend against.  
All of the problems would appear almost DC related instead of high energy 
microwave like.  For instance radios would not even be dangerously damaged with 
solar related issues.


Transformer overloads would be likely, and so would transmission lines, and 
other long distance metallic paths.  This would be bad, no doubt, but not 
likely to blow up the diesel systems and their controls.  The battery backups 
should survive without serious harm either.


So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts until 
the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm
Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth


They ought to be working on it now.  In 1859 many/most had access to farms for 
food and did not rely on electricity/electronics for almost everything.  Today 
we have millions of people racked and stacked in cities totally reliant on a 
power infrastructure that could be knocked out for a year or more. A large 
flare is going to happen.  Fukushima was a good example of how woefully 
unprepared a power company is if there is a loss of grid power and diesel 
backup.  I wonder if those diesel gensets have electronic ignitions that will 
still function?  I used to work for Honeywell, what if the control system gets 
fried?  I still remember those helicopters dumping loads of water on top of the 
reactors, how effective was that?

On Thursday, August 1, 2013,   wrote:

Dave,

I don't think ChemE is being gloomy.
Starting at 0:48:42 in the video, someone remarks -
"... A general EMP would have Fukushimas all over the country."

One recent paper in arxiv indicated that the probability of such an
event in a human lifetime is not that small.

The video shows that the elites are abandoning "normality bias".
As they stated, for less than $2B, the grid could be hardened.
That's money well spent.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Dave Roberson wrote:
> No need to be so gloomy ChemE.  We have survived thus far.
>
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth
>
>
> There will come a day.  It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets
> us.  It will be untold numbers of fission reactors that cannot get their
> backup batteries and diesel generators to run, or enough diesel fuel,
> which will lead to multiple meltdowns and will be the end to life as we
> know it.
> [...]




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