David,

You probably did not listen to the video
- the scenarios they discuss are not as upbeat as yours.
There are a number of additional videos/articles on the subject.
Quite a few experts paint a much grimmer picture of what happens after
an extreme event - no power, no transportation, no communication, no food,
no replacement generators, total civil disorder, ....
Safety systems at nuclear plants would only run for a month or so - then,
as discussed in the meeting we "would have Fukushimas all over the country."


David Roberson wrote:
> I would hope that a backup system would kick in if the grid went down.
> Battery operation kept the Fukushima reactors safe for a few hours and had
> the diesels been functional, there might not have been such a mess.
>
>
> There are varying levels and types of EMP to worry about.  EMP from a
> nuclear weapon most likely would behave quite differently from that
> sourced by a solar flare.  The EMP fields from nuclear weapons are
> instantaneously generated with the associated extremely rapid waveforms.
> Is there any reason to suspect that those originating from a solar
> eruption would be similar?  My guess is that a large, long term, but
> slowly changing field would be easy to defend against.  All of the
> problems would appear almost DC related instead of high energy microwave
> like.  For instance radios would not even be dangerously damaged with
> solar related issues.
>
>
> Transformer overloads would be likely, and so would transmission lines,
> and other long distance metallic paths.  This would be bad, no doubt, but
> not likely to blow up the diesel systems and their controls.  The battery
> backups should survive without serious harm either.
>
>
> So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts
> until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth
>
>
> They ought to be working on it now.  In 1859 many/most had access to farms
> for food and did not rely on electricity/electronics for almost
> everything.  Today we have millions of people racked and stacked in cities
> totally reliant on a power infrastructure that could be knocked out for a
> year or more. A large flare is going to happen.  Fukushima was a good
> example of how woefully unprepared a power company is if there is a loss
> of grid power and diesel backup.  I wonder if those diesel gensets have
> electronic ignitions that will still function?  I used to work for
> Honeywell, what if the control system gets fried?  I still remember those
> helicopters dumping loads of water on top of the reactors, how effective
> was that?
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2013,   wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I don't think ChemE is being gloomy.
> Starting at 0:48:42 in the video, someone remarks -
> "... A general EMP would have Fukushimas all over the country."
>
> One recent paper in arxiv indicated that the probability of such an
> event in a human lifetime is not that small.
>
> The video shows that the elites are abandoning "normality bias".
> As they stated, for less than $2B, the grid could be hardened.
> That's money well spent.
>
> -- Lou Pagnucco
>
> Dave Roberson wrote:
>> No need to be so gloomy ChemE.  We have survived thus far.
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth
>>
>>
>> There will come a day.  It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets
>> us.  It will be untold numbers of fission reactors that cannot get their
>> backup batteries and diesel generators to run, or enough diesel fuel,
>> which will lead to multiple meltdowns and will be the end to life as we
>> know it.
>> [...]
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