Considering that nuclear plants in the US are designed around the idea of EMP from nearby nuclear explosions not being able to stop them running, I don't believe there is a problem. (From my father in law, who is a senior reactor operator at Palo Verde, they have mechanical backups to completely take a core down if need be. )
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:29 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > I would hope that a backup system would kick in if the grid went down. > Battery operation kept the Fukushima reactors safe for a few hours and had > the diesels been functional, there might not have been such a mess. > > There are varying levels and types of EMP to worry about. EMP from a > nuclear weapon most likely would behave quite differently from that sourced > by a solar flare. The EMP fields from nuclear weapons are instantaneously > generated with the associated extremely rapid waveforms. Is there any > reason to suspect that those originating from a solar eruption would be > similar? My guess is that a large, long term, but slowly changing field > would be easy to defend against. All of the problems would appear almost > DC related instead of high energy microwave like. For instance radios > would not even be dangerously damaged with solar related issues. > > Transformer overloads would be likely, and so would transmission lines, > and other long distance metallic paths. This would be bad, no doubt, but > not likely to blow up the diesel systems and their controls. The battery > backups should survive without serious harm either. > > So, we could expect serious problems with power transmission that lasts > until the components are repaired, but I doubt a nuclear catastrophe. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 7:03 pm > Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth > > They ought to be working on it now. In 1859 many/most had access to > farms for food and did not rely on electricity/electronics for almost > everything. Today we have millions of people racked and stacked in cities > totally reliant on a power infrastructure that could be knocked out for a > year or more. A large flare is going to happen. Fukushima was a good > example of how woefully unprepared a power company is if there is a loss of > grid power and diesel backup. I wonder if those diesel gensets have > electronic ignitions that will still function? I used to work for > Honeywell, what if the control system gets fried? I still remember those > helicopters dumping loads of water on top of the reactors, how effective > was that? > > On Thursday, August 1, 2013, wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> I don't think ChemE is being gloomy. >> Starting at 0:48:42 in the video, someone remarks - >> "... A general EMP would have Fukushimas all over the country." >> >> One recent paper in arxiv indicated that the probability of such an >> event in a human lifetime is not that small. >> >> The video shows that the elites are abandoning "normality bias". >> As they stated, for less than $2B, the grid could be hardened. >> That's money well spent. >> >> -- Lou Pagnucco >> >> Dave Roberson wrote: >> > No need to be so gloomy ChemE. We have survived thus far. >> > >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> >> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> > Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4:36 pm >> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Video) Catastrophic solar flare narrowly misses Earth >> > >> > >> > There will come a day. It probably won't be the EMP directly that gets >> > us. It will be untold numbers of fission reactors that cannot get their >> > backup batteries and diesel generators to run, or enough diesel fuel, >> > which will lead to multiple meltdowns and will be the end to life as we >> > know it. >> > [...] >> >>
