what is funny and interesting is that this movent is pushed... you can be
surprised, but the more "libertarianist" (in france we call them liberal,
this mean like republican... not like communist).

the idea is based on many observation.
the fact that tax increase with income is demotivating some people to work
more, to earn more, to take risk ... in fact what is important for decision
in economy is the marginal tax rate... it is absolutely huge for some
activities in france (a nearky communist country... I mean really
communist, not like USSr(a kingdom) or China (a typical capitalist
country)).

in exchange to huge taxes, the politicians manage a huge network of
present, primes, which allow people to accept it.... what is pumped in one
pocket is given in the other...

meanwhile people are demotivated, and worse tha demotivated to work, they
are distracted to productive aactivities... many companies pay dozen of
people to manage tax evasion, subsidies hunting, paperwork...
france is thus champion is puting extremely demotivating taxes, and adding
a pile of exception to correct that suicidal situation.

this movement is associated to flat tax movement...
the propose income is huge for me , but we have to see if it is matching
the cost of living.

note taht with that minimum wages, you can push people to pay for their own
"social security", negociate, ...

it is really pushing a free-pmarket and laisser-faire way of mind...

it is the opposite of communism.

the idea is to delegate the government welfare to the individual
themselves...

I imagine it can cause problem, because many people are not responsible,
but with government welfare they are nor more responsible, as consumer or
as worker, and all the energy used to control how the welfare state is
abused by people, by companies, by workers, is huge and inefficient...

maybe giving the cash to people so they pay their social security, their
survival when in trouble, being their insurance if their business crash,
will make them less afraid of tomorrow, and more daring...
at least if taxes are flat, and subsidies disappears, people, enterprises
and administrations will lose less time to manage tricky laws...

I live in the opposite of that, and it is depressing when you want to do a
business without a lawyer. even running a family is not simple, especially
if you start to have problems and ask for help... Being poor or unemployed
requires a MBA in france. The good point is that if you make an error with
taxes, it is quickly corrected... but the fines is pushing you to pay an
accountant.



2013/10/19 James Bowery <[email protected]>

> This is going to strip away layers of rhetorical fog and start to expose
> the essential issues in political economy in such a way as to bring
> immigration into rational economic perspective -- although the deeper
> issues of cultural heritage are still largely obscured.  For that reason
> alone, every rhetorical trick in the book is going to be thrown at it in an
> attempt to reinsert bureaucratic discretion on the disbursements.  But more
> important in the long run is the revival of the yeoman class's contribution
> to scientific revolutions.  The Swiss are already at the forefront 
> ofartificial intelligence research<http://www.idsia.ch/>
> .
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Switzerland is considering giving every citizen $2,800 a month gratis,
>> with no strings attached. We have discussed this idea here from time to
>> time. See:
>>
>>
>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2013/10/19/swiss_government_giveaway_2_800_a_month_for_all_citizens.html
>>
>> QUOTE:
>>
>> "We are not proposing a minimum income — we are proposing an
>> unconditional income. A minimum wage reduces freedom — because it is an
>> additional rule. It tries to fix a system that has been outdated for a
>> while. It is time to partly disconnect human labor and income. We are
>> living in a time where machines do a lot of the manual labor — that is
>> great — we should be celebrating."
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

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