On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Craig <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, I'm referring to the law. The law is backed by violence and threats
> of violence. Library fines are agreed upon when a person signs up for
> the library; but it's not valid to take a large geographic area and
> claim the authority to control the actions of all the people within it.
>

We've had legal jurisdictions set out on the basis of geography since the
time of Hammurabi, and no doubt long before then.   What you're proposing
here as valid and invalid are things that human society hasn't agreed upon
in many thousands of years of its existence.  I respectfully submit that
your proposal, if it could be translated into a coherent program of ruling
through "nonviolence," would be as radical as the cultural revolution in
China was, or as radical as land reform in communist Russia during the
1920s and 30s was, during which many millions of people died through
starvation.  The way society currently works is it has law courts and
police and elected representatives; I would prefer to iterate on this model
than replace it wholesale.

But the wealthy don't become wealthy by stealing money. They acquire
> wealth through voluntarily providing goods and services to others.


Many wealthy people make their wealth through legitimate means.  Many
others use everything up to and including illegal means to generate their
wealth.  In the past there were the robber barons and the industrial
monopolies.  Today we have a whole new bag of legal tricks to centralize
wealth in the hands of a few.  Legitimacy and hard work often have little
to do with the accumulation of wealth in such instances.  It can be as
simple as using other peoples' pensions to game the stock market through
leveraged trades -- this is the socialization of risk and the privatization
of gain.  The only reason such transactions have a patina of legitimacy is
because people are ignorant about how economics and finance work.

Eric

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