for me , as it happen often minimal income go with flat tax, which it dampen.
Some people would agree to pay their slightly bigger share of taxes (maybe not bigger in fact that is the trick) to : - stop thinking about taxes, and thinking about business - stop wasting public money to check is poor people are poor, to help them. - stop having poor people who compute whether they have to work or not, to be able to optimize their situation... they will always benefit from working, unlike in charity state. My vision is that even if rich people think they will pay more taxes, in fact they will pay less taxes, and also beyond that will earn more wealth ... they will work less to gain more, paying less tax advisors, and focussing on business there will be less poors, since they will work hard and efficiently with more pleasure, increasing competence and recognition, instead of making parametric optimizations on aids there will be abuses of the systems, but they will not may more that the minimum salary, and guess what ? one day they will want more and the only solution will be : work... it will be simple, clear , and without doubt the best option. more generally it will promote risk taking people, who will always know they will survive... it will allow what Taleb calls the Barbel stratégy, take risk, with a good parachute. clearly that proposition is a libertarian welfare state, not a communism. some (in France) hate it because it is too libertarianist... In France, communist moan that it is unfair since the rich will have it too (they don't count the taxes rich will pays, as they will pay anyway - they say)... some other says it is unconditional thus unfair... I remember a motto which says if you subsidize poor people, you push people to be poor... it seems crazy but in france we have such a system of people trapped in poverty because as soon as they earn money they lose all aid, and get really poor. of course you can let people die in the street... for me it is lost workforce, lost opportunities, lost capital... not even talking of being human... :< 2013/10/21 Craig <[email protected]> > On 10/19/2013 11:09 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > > Communism, I tell you! Pure, unadulterated communism! Or maybe it's > > socialism. Yeah, that's what it is. No, wait! It's socialistic > > communism. Yeah that's the ticket. It's pure concentrated evil, > > whatever it is! We can't have it, and we won't have it! God fearing > > Americans would NEVER EVER propose such a preposterous and evil > > economic system: > > > > > > > > That's the spirit! > > But... why can't we let people who want to live in this type of system > opt-in; while those who don't, opt-out? The reason is because those who > want this system don't want to support it themselves, but rather, they > want the money of others, richer than themselves, to support it. > > Everyone has ideas that can be made manifest when others pay for it. > Democracies, while around for a couple thousand years now, never cease > to find people who are willing to enslave others, for causes they > believe to be just. The solution is freedom. If people want to help > others, then let them; but don't threaten people with violence and > threats of violence, if they want to opt-out of whichever program you > believe deserves attention. Since we all have independent opinions, and > independent values, then allow all people to pursue their own values, > and stop enforcing your values on others. We can work together where we > agree; and work separately where we differ. > > Craig > >
