Nobody has replicated what Rossi has done and he doesn't share what he does.
Frankly, that's what's really useless here. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > A LENR reaction that produces gammas is useless because of the NRC > roadblock. > > Rossi bent over backward to rid his system of gammas and for good reasons. > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> If it generates gamma and its replicated you don't think that's an >> interesting contribution to science? >> >> I think if something strange and unexpected is happening (at least to the >> wide world of science) even if it is orthogonal to your purpose, I think it >> makes sense to follow where it leads. >> >> Quite a few great discoveries in science happened that way. >> >> Anyways, frankly, they need to be more careful about radiation >> regardless. Hate to see these really great guys hurt themselves, even >> accidentally. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> IMHO, working on the F&P cell and the Pd/D reaction is misguided and >>> counterproductive. >>> >>> If we cannot convince nuclear engineers that a Ni/H reactor in a third >>> party test works, a F&P cell has nor hope of doing so. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> "The production of gamma radiation is a sure sign that the LENR >>>> reaction is failing, in the same way that smoke is an indicator of a >>>> failing wood fire reaction. >>>> >>>> A hot and vigorous wood fire is smokeless." >>>> >>>> Your analogy is great cause being able to generate smoke is usually >>>> what you generally learn to do before you generate fire. >>>> >>>> >>>> "These LENR workers are misguided. " >>>> >>>> Your ad hominem not so great. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> These LENR workers are misguided. These guys want an indicator based >>>>> on nuclear engineering to prove that LENR is occurring to these nuclear >>>>> people. This is a misinformed opinion and uneducated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The production of gamma radiation is a sure sign that the LENR >>>>> reaction is failing, in the same way that smoke is an indicator of a >>>>> failing wood fire reaction. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A hot and vigorous wood fire is smokeless. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In the same way, a hot and vigorous LENR reaction is one without any >>>>> gammas. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In the third party test of Rossi reactor during reactor meltdown, no >>>>> gammas were detected. The take away, a vigorous LENR reaction produces no >>>>> gammas. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well no, they have detected gamma rays, but perhaps not yet >>>>>> definitively. >>>>>> >>>>>> From FB: >>>>>> >>>>>> Gamma - the smoking gun of LENR? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://youtu.be/ehvRxMYczK8 >>>>>> >>>>>> We have seen repeatable bursts of gamma during re-gassing of the EU >>>>>> cells over the last 2 months and we are preparing a highly sensitive >>>>>> Thallium doped Sodium Iodide detector NaI(Tl) and a spectrometer to >>>>>> follow >>>>>> the evidence. If we can see specific non-background gamma energies, >>>>>> repeatably that maybe even correlate to excess heat, then it will be a >>>>>> very >>>>>> significant find. >>>>>> >>>>>> The next few months may, in retrospect, make this one of the most >>>>>> important blog posts in our short history. >>>>>> >>>>>> Read the blog post and see more videos here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-2/347-gamma >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The title of the FR post is (annoyingly) misleading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The MFMP team is saying that they are excited about putting a more >>>>>>> sensitive gamma ray detector into operation -- not that it has, as of >>>>>>> now, >>>>>>> detected unambiguous gamma rays. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *MFMP detects GAMMA rays in LENR >>>>>>>> experiment*<http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/3088346/posts> >>>>>>>> *Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project ^ >>>>>>>> <http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-2/347-gamma> >>>>>>>> * | 06 November 2013. | Robert Greenyer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *"Well, to put it plain and simple - it would mean that we have a >>>>>>>> incontrovertible demonstration of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions >>>>>>>> (LENR)."* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ekevmo/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gamma >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on 06 November 2013. The smoking gun of LENR? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On January the 14th 2011, Rossi and Focardi gave the first public >>>>>>>> demonstration of the low temperature E-Cat to a personally invited >>>>>>>> group. A >>>>>>>> short time afterwards, Francesco Celani, who was present at the >>>>>>>> demonstration, sent a review for the event to New Energy Times. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Francesco Celani record of first public E-Cat demonstration in New >>>>>>>> Energy Times >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In this article, it is noted that Rossi and Focardi had a twin >>>>>>>> gamma ray detector set up in order to detect e+e- annihilation that was >>>>>>>> expected by Focardi based on previous experiments. The results from >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> set up were not meaningful during the guests time in the room. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob Greenyer was keen to understand more about this event, so in >>>>>>>> the day following ICCF-18, he quizzed Francesco on the matter. Here is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> fresh account of that event. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Francesco was sitting down with other scientists and guests waiting >>>>>>>> to be called in for the demonstration, they were 7 – 8m away from E-Cat >>>>>>>> which was behind a door in another room. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Francesco had 2 gamma detectors with him, 1 very cheap and 1 very >>>>>>>> expensive battery operated 1.25” NaI(TI) detection range of 25keV to >>>>>>>> 2000 >>>>>>>> keV. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He notes that the background in Frascatti is normally around 120 >>>>>>>> because of local geology, but in Bologna it is 60, Francesco Celani >>>>>>>> set the >>>>>>>> detectors accordingly and the assembled group sat there patiently >>>>>>>> waiting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Suddenly and for about 1 second, both detectors topped out 1000+ >>>>>>>> counts PER SECOND and sounded their alarms (they could not show any >>>>>>>> more). >>>>>>>> Several of the invited observers considered literally running from the >>>>>>>> building as it was speculated that Rossi might be leveraging a >>>>>>>> radioactive >>>>>>>> source in his experiment. Why such concern? Well, radiation falls off >>>>>>>> according to Newtons 1/d^2 law as you can see here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Plugging the minimum 1000 counts per second and 8 meters into the >>>>>>>> formula would mean that 50cm from the E-Cat, the counts would be over a >>>>>>>> quarter million per second - not good! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, luckily the momentary signal collapsed and about two >>>>>>>> minutes later, Rossi came into the waiting room to invite people in to >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> the E-cat saying “the reaction has started”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Francesco and the rest of the invited guests then went into the >>>>>>>> room where the E-Cat was. Whilst in that room and using the NaI(TI) >>>>>>>> near >>>>>>>> the operating reactor, there was a 50-100% count increase over >>>>>>>> background >>>>>>>> which was erratic. Francesco decided to try and get a spectra from the >>>>>>>> detector, in order to understand what might be going on and so he >>>>>>>> switched >>>>>>>> mode on the detector. Rossi however saw what he was doing, got upset >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Celani was told to stop the measurements, which he did. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition, Celani said that he noted a number of gas cylinders in >>>>>>>> the room – but that it would only be speculation to say what they >>>>>>>> were. If >>>>>>>> E-Cats do indeed produce high gamma busts prepping for 'switch on' or >>>>>>>> elevated emissions during operation, that might explain challenges in >>>>>>>> getting domestic certification and the determination to keep below a >>>>>>>> fixed >>>>>>>> cop and using staged cascades of small to big E-Cats to create larger >>>>>>>> effective COPs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whatever happened that day, Francesco Celani started investigating >>>>>>>> surface modified transition metals with hydrogen the following month. >>>>>>>> Inverse Square Law >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To help understand the inverse square law we made this little >>>>>>>> video. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Comparing the 1100 counts per minute at 2 cm from source in that >>>>>>>> video to being 8m away, gives around 0.007 counts per minute - i.e. not >>>>>>>> meaningful contribution to the 25 or so background. Hopefully this >>>>>>>> gives a >>>>>>>> sense of why there was such excitement at the momentary signal in >>>>>>>> January >>>>>>>> 14, 2011. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Celani >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After the end of ICCF-18 conference dinner, Bob found himself in a >>>>>>>> conversation opposite Francesco Celani and a prominent government >>>>>>>> funded >>>>>>>> scientist. Celani was told essentially that the levels of excess >>>>>>>> reported >>>>>>>> were basically not significant enough to avoid being dismissed and that >>>>>>>> what was needed as solid evidence of LENR was either transmutation or >>>>>>>> particle/ray emission. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Francesco then said, that when he was testing his wire with >>>>>>>> Deuterium, he got gamma emissions, the scientist asked if it was >>>>>>>> explored >>>>>>>> but Celani said no because he was looking for excess heat and actually, >>>>>>>> that experiment just produced a clear negative result. Martin >>>>>>>> Fleischmann >>>>>>>> Memorial Project (MFMP) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the MFMP, this year has largely been about differential >>>>>>>> experiments, first the Steel and Glass, then the US dual cells and more >>>>>>>> recently, the calibrated dual Celani cells in France. In this latter >>>>>>>> experiment, the first of the active wires completed loading and moved >>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>> apparent excess heat after around six days and stayed firmly positive >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> favour of the active cell for more than 30 days. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> EU dual differential cells >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At one point, before the powering of the second wire, the active >>>>>>>> cell input power was reduced by around 2.5W. The differential dropped >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> zero, indicating that it took 2.5 more watts to raise the passive cell >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the same average external temperature. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rough calculation assuming that only the actively powered wire is >>>>>>>> producing apparent excess - which given that the 280L looked like it >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> still loading, was a fair assumption. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (2.5W / 42.5W) * 100 = 5.9% apparent excess, this is in line with >>>>>>>> other experiments we have performed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2.5W *(1 / 0.275g [approximate weight of wire]) = 9.1W/g >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Celani says the wires he is supplying us should show excess of >>>>>>>> between 5W/g and 50W/g. This is in that range. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Putting this in context, in theory 1kg of this wire would yield >>>>>>>> approximately 910W. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But that is not what got us excited! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The experiment had an annoying leak in the control cell and since >>>>>>>> the cells were bridged by a small pipe for pressure equalisation, >>>>>>>> Mathieu >>>>>>>> found he had to re-fill the cells every 48 hours or so. This leak was >>>>>>>> a bug >>>>>>>> he wanted to fix, and indeed, he made the replacement flange, but >>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>> the cells were producing good data, he stopped short of actually doing >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> repair. That might be a very important decision! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adjacent to the cells he had placed an unshielded geiger counter >>>>>>>> that normally registered around 22 counts per minute dropping to 12 and >>>>>>>> rising to around 30. In September 2013, he noticed that each time he >>>>>>>> refilled the cells, shortly afterwards, the counts leapt up to around >>>>>>>> 60-90. He waited for the same process to repeat a few times before >>>>>>>> informing the team. With the above knowledge about previous events – >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> team started to appeal for a NaI(Tl) and related equipment around the >>>>>>>> end >>>>>>>> of September. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To our great delight, Jean-Paul Biberian supplied an old, but >>>>>>>> rather excellent, LARGE, Thallium doped Sodium Iodide detector/photon >>>>>>>> multiplier - NaI (Tl). The downside was that the associated >>>>>>>> electronics for >>>>>>>> driving it and analysing the spectrum of gamma energies was broken and >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> practical to replace. What to do? Normally this kind of hardware is >>>>>>>> expensive and we just did not have the funds... we were starting to >>>>>>>> feel >>>>>>>> the pain of many a scientist the world over, great potential >>>>>>>> experiment, >>>>>>>> nearly there, but no way of seeing it through. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To be fair, Mathieu had found a detector driver and spectrometry >>>>>>>> solution that might be affordable, called Gamma Spectacular, they might >>>>>>>> just have got a solution for us. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gamma Spectacular website >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then, as if by magic, Marissa Little from Earthtech, Texas >>>>>>>> contacted us and introduced that they were starting to re-visit LENR >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> had become aware of our work and was there any way to help us or work >>>>>>>> together. Well, we let them know just what was going on and said that >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> most important thing they could help us with right now was to help us >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> some way to drive our NaI detector. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Earthtech website >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Working with the extremely knowledgeable Steven Sesselmann from >>>>>>>> Gamma Spectacular and Marissa, and a good deal of images over a few >>>>>>>> weeks, >>>>>>>> we came up with a solution, which, amazingly Earthtech offered to >>>>>>>> purchase, >>>>>>>> which they did 30/10/2013. We are very appreciative of this >>>>>>>> generosity, we >>>>>>>> hope that we can make use of everything together in the week starting >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 11/11/2013. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First we had to see how many M Ohms the detector was, we needed >>>>>>>> over 15 and we got 2! - you can see us doing this in these images:- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We also discovered it had a ‘C’ type High Tension connection and a >>>>>>>> BNC signal out and gain potentiometer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in modern detectors, Safe High Voltage (SHV) connectors are used in >>>>>>>> place of the ‘C’ type connectors, we did not need the gain adjustment >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> the resistance was way too low, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it was decided by all parties that it would be best to replace the >>>>>>>> whole internal electronics so that they would play nice with the GS2000 >>>>>>>> Pro, so Mathieu prepared the detector for when we would receive the new >>>>>>>> internals. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Defkalion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In Defkalion’s latest paper with Dr Yeong E. Kim, they have this to >>>>>>>> say about their observation on gammas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3.2 Radiation measurements >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As shown in Fig. 4, no gamma rays outside the energy range of 50 >>>>>>>> keV–300 keV have been observed from the experiments with the Hyperion >>>>>>>> R-5 >>>>>>>> reactor (data are from iso-parabolic calorimeter experiment carried >>>>>>>> out on >>>>>>>> May 6, 2013). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The original paper can be found here Celani - again >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So we wanted to experiment to see if we could re-create what >>>>>>>> Mathieu had seen. Mathieu had become less committed to the events as >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> experiment went on as it did not appear that they were occurring at the >>>>>>>> higher temperatures with both wires functioning. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regardless, we therefore called Francesco Celani this week (first >>>>>>>> on Tue 29/10/2013), a good number of times, about his comments at >>>>>>>> ICCF-18 >>>>>>>> and he provided additional information. Essentially, the wire had >>>>>>>> previously been loaded with H2 and he had attempted to deload it by >>>>>>>> applying power under vacuum. He then filled the cell with Deuterium and >>>>>>>> started to raise the temperature. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At first there was nothing, but as the mean internal temperature >>>>>>>> went over around 100ºC, there started to be a near doubling of the >>>>>>>> background gamma count. They were alarmed, but even though >>>>>>>> significant, it >>>>>>>> was not at a level to be of great concern. This continued until the >>>>>>>> cell >>>>>>>> internal mean temperature passed through around 160ºC whereafter there >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> no significant signal. For about 10 minutes, during this raising >>>>>>>> temperature period, there was the increased gammas and then nothing. >>>>>>>> Other >>>>>>>> than Francesco, there were two observers in the room that witnessed the >>>>>>>> event. As said before, the Deuterium experiment did not seem to produce >>>>>>>> excess and so was not pursued. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From his paper: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 23.) We observed, for the first time in our experimentation with >>>>>>>> such kind of materials, some X (and/or gamma emission), coming-out >>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>> reactor during the increasing of the temperature from about 100°C to >>>>>>>> 160°C. >>>>>>>> We used a NaI(Tl) detector, energy range 25-2000keV used as counter >>>>>>>> (safety >>>>>>>> purposes), not spectrometer. Total time of such emission was about >>>>>>>> 600s and >>>>>>>> clearly detectable, burst like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 24.) About thermal anomalies, we observed, very surprising, that >>>>>>>> the response was endothermic, not esothermic. The second day the system >>>>>>>> crossed the zero line and later become clearly eso-thermic. Similar >>>>>>>> effects >>>>>>>> were reported also by A. Takahashi and A. Kitamura. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 25.) After about 350000s from the beginning of D2 intake the >>>>>>>> temperature abruptly increased and the wire was broken. We observed >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> the pressure decreased, because some problems to the reactor gas >>>>>>>> tight, but >>>>>>>> at times of 80000s before. The SEM observations showed fusion of a >>>>>>>> large >>>>>>>> piece of wire. The shape was like a ball. Further analyses are in >>>>>>>> progress. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It occurred to us that this temperature dependence, having been >>>>>>>> pointed to it, may be very significant. Mathieu had already seen no >>>>>>>> extra >>>>>>>> gammas at higher temperature - could this explain that? Initial >>>>>>>> experiment >>>>>>>> to verify gamma emissions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Despite Mathieu fearing that the wires were toasted (the cells had >>>>>>>> been running at 70W for some days and were not producing as much >>>>>>>> excess as >>>>>>>> before), we decided to take the wires down to around 150ºC and try to >>>>>>>> recreate what was apparently happening previously and capture it on >>>>>>>> camera. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not amazingly conclusive, but the background was around 12-28 and >>>>>>>> the gamma pulse shortly after the recharge pushed the PER MINUTE >>>>>>>> average to >>>>>>>> 40+, meaning a much higher per second pulse. We are looking forward to >>>>>>>> having the ability to have much more sensitive equipment that can give >>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>> second readings and a gamma spectra also. Lead well >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because the NaI will be SO much more sensitive than the geiger >>>>>>>> counter - we will need to shield it in 5cm of lead on all sides except >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> one that will face the reactor. Maybe make it from 2 concentric >>>>>>>> cylinders >>>>>>>> filled with lead… however, we need the lead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone in France got a load of Lead they could drive over to >>>>>>>> Mathieu with? If they have, who fancies casting a bit of lead >>>>>>>> shielding? >>>>>>>> Possibilities to explore Is it really happening? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We need to measure it repeatedly and with a better resolution. We >>>>>>>> will strive to measure with a Geiger-Muller counter in more controlled >>>>>>>> conditions, possibly lead shielding, and with more sensitive NaI >>>>>>>> detectors. >>>>>>>> We will try to look for total count rates and also the gamma spectrum >>>>>>>> measurement. Finally, we will try to make a new apparatus that brings a >>>>>>>> higher density of wire nearer to the detector. If it is happening, >>>>>>>> what is >>>>>>>> it related to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it being caused by pressure shock? - Test at various pressure >>>>>>>> levels and step sizes. Pre-heat incoming gas to same temp as gas in >>>>>>>> cell so >>>>>>>> as to remove thermal shock. Thermal shock from the cool incoming gas? - >>>>>>>> Test with some other cool gas like Helium. Try chilling the incoming >>>>>>>> gas >>>>>>>> more. Hydrogen flux into the wire? - Does a slow pressure rise work >>>>>>>> almost >>>>>>>> as well as a rapid one? Fresh deuterium in new gas? - Add a little >>>>>>>> supplemental Deuterium and see if the gamma signal gets higher. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The EU team can explore: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lower temps and pressures to a few bars. Test with Helium to see if >>>>>>>> it is a cool gas thing He has more wires on the way to try it again, if >>>>>>>> necessary, as the September/October experiment wires are not so active >>>>>>>> after being run at 70W The huge NaI(Tl) detector and electronics >>>>>>>> en-route >>>>>>>> will allow for much better >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The US team can explore: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Putting our Geiger counter and NaI gamma detector near our V1.3 >>>>>>>> cell and try adding gas. We currently have two loaded wires in the >>>>>>>> active >>>>>>>> cell to work with. Try adding Deuterium in small amounts. We currently >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> some heavy water and an electrolysis unit to make some gas. New cell >>>>>>>> at HUG >>>>>>>> to test this - Replicate our heavy duty aluminum cell that we have a >>>>>>>> camera >>>>>>>> on, but with a full size glass window on the end so we can put it >>>>>>>> directly >>>>>>>> up against the Ortech NaI detector face. Inside this cell, we put >>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>> pieces of wires wrapped around mica frames, and then we can stack >>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>> of those frames all within 5 cm, or so, of the face of the NaI >>>>>>>> detector. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is the significance? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So why should we be excited at the prospect of seeing controllable >>>>>>>> gamma emissions from our experiments? Well, to put it plain and simple >>>>>>>> - it >>>>>>>> would mean that we have a incontrovertible demonstration of Low Energy >>>>>>>> Nuclear Reactions (LENR). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Additionally, knowing the energies of any Gamma emissions would >>>>>>>> help determine the underlying process and help indicate what power can >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> achieved by singular events and overall potential yield. Lastly, it >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> help dictate paths for material science, control, stimulation and safe >>>>>>>> operation that will take the technology forward. Discussion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the video below, which lasts for around 30 mins, Bob and Mathieu >>>>>>>> discuss what led up to the decision to follow the evidence and the >>>>>>>> implications. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
