On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Ed,
You must be joking. Are you really implying that QM is a "mental game"
having no value for LENR?
No Jones I'm stating that the QM methods they are applying are
nonsense. Of course QM is a good and powerful tool if used properly.
As you must notice, QM is applied a lot of different ways.
This paper does not strike me as any kind of frivolity, since it is
based on
data accumulated over many years - but your remarks ring of tunnel
vision
and are hard to take seriously. I can only hope that somewhere along
the way
you have not missed or ignored ... or are not in denial about quantum
mechanics - and especially QM relative to Kalman's conclusions -
including
wave function, probability density and position-space.
I'm basing my remarks on what is known to be real. You seem to be
impressed by the social status of the authors and the reputation of
QM. I have great respect for QM but I have great disappointment with
how it is frequently applied. Modern physics is so dominated by
mathematical constructs, they ignore what is real, and then excuse
this by saying that this approach is ok because the quantum world is
so strange. They seem to make it as strange as possible just to avoid
a challenge.
They have model called the "solid state internal conversion process"
which
is based on accumulated data from low energy accelerator physics.
They hope
to apply that model to other phenomena, including LENR. If you were
not
aware of it, it is in the third citation.
This paper is about measuring the probability for that reaction, a
which is
known to happen at low energy. The problem for transposing to LENR
is that
the probability may not be high enough. What I expected to see from
skeptics
is that their estimate is too high, but not that this is some kind of
game... LOL.
If you want to issue a blanket denial of the reality of QM for LENR
then say
so - as that seems to be the conclusion which makes the most sense
from your
remarks.
That - or a knee-jerk rebuttal to any theory not you own.
And which knee are you jerking? :-)
Ed
Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Storms
Jones, I know it is fun to speculate and play mental games in science,
but why waste time when the game has no value. This paper you find
interesting is a mathematical game having no relationship to reality.
If anything, this exercise shows just how flawed the theory being used
really is.
