Ed, These theorists and experimentalists are determined. They have spent 50 years and 10 billion bucks just to verify the existence of the Higgs field. So quantum mechanic understanding is not cheap or easy.
What will be great is that LENR will give the world a new tool in the process of discovery, in which you will be in the vanguard. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote: > Yes, if 4 don't work, try 5. If 5 fail, try 50. As they say, with enough > variables, all data can be fit. It never occurs to these people that their > basic model may be wrong. They just keep adding variables and complexity > until all the points fall on a line. > > Ed Storms > > > On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > There is a movement in quantum physics that I am partial to, that movement > involves the 5th dimension. > > Some big names in physics think that the 5th dimension holds the path to > new and better explanations involving the subatomic world. > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13070896/#.UrcvUbmA2AI > > “SEATTLE - The cosmos would make perfect sense … if it turns out we're > living in a 10- or 11-dimensional realm where gravity is bubbling off a > different plane entirely. At least that's what's emerging as the hottest > concept on the frontier of physics.” > > The 5th dimension makes sense to me as a hidden dimension that provides > communication between subatomic particles and supports the infrastructure > of gravity. > > > > http://phys.org/news/2013-12-creation-entanglement-simultaneously-wormhole.html > > Creation of entanglement simultaneously gives rise to a wormhole > > The quarks are connected by a wormhole that exists in the 5th dimension > where space and time does not exist. > > The 5th diminution is where wormholes exist, and where space and time does > not. > > Those who are interested in LENR might want to look beyond the billiard > ball model of the universe into waves and strings of light and their tips > (topological defects). > > > We can see this multi-dimensional principle in operation in a two > dimensional allegorical world on the surface of a swimming pool where the > counter rotating solitons are connected in a higher third dimension within > the depths of water in the pool. > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909o_kbCdFg > > > Quarks are localized and confined vortexes (aka solitons) of energy that > exist in the Higgs field that do not dissipate because of the agency of the > superfuildic superconductivity of the Higgs field. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ederft9dkag > > > Baths and Quarks: Solitons explained > > > Entanglement exists and is mediated in the 5th dimension and entanglement > stores energy when the quarks are formed or when the quarks are moved > apart. The 5th dimension is where the connective strong force operates. > > When a subatomic particle forms, its isospin is rooted deep in the 5th > dimension with just its vortex tip projecting into our 4 dimensional world. > > Electrons are just the tips of broken light strings whose spin is imbedded > into the 5th dimension. A cooper pair of protons or electrons is connected > by an energy channel that projects into the 5th dimension. > > > Most of the energy that makes up matter is stored in the 5th dimension. > Since all quarks are entangled, this entangled 5th dimension is where dark > energy lives and gravity operates. > > > Since the strong magnetic fields produced by LENR can destroy the > superconductivity that the quarks exist in, the connective energy between > the quarks is retrieved from the 5th dimension and made real again to > reappear and reenter back into our world. > > LENR is a way to manipulate the quantum world of the 5th dimension. > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tampe: I couldn't agree more, it's very frustrating to learn QM. You >>> tend to >>> get a lot of powerful mathematical constructs but really no good mental >>> model how it all works. >>> >>> >>> Oh my. This is nonsensical to the max. No one is asking you to learn the >>> deepest secrets of QM. An adequate mental model is available with zero >>> math >>> - but - it is not the same logic as one finds in "common sense". How can >>> one >>> NOT have a mental model for quantum tunneling after all these years? In >>> fact >>> QM is more a process of ridding oneself of the wrong mental model than >>> learning a new one. One can mentally accept time reversal, for instance, >>> without leaning the intricacies of CPT symmetry and Kramer's theorem. "No >>> good mental model" and "ignoring what is real" are both complete >>> cop-outs. >>> >> >> I agree that Quantum tunneling is what may be behind this, and a few Å is >> enough >> for it to start do it's work, But the validity of calculation of the >> expansion with a >> virtual particle that temporally breaks the momentum conservation for >> quite some >> distance, makes me vary and want to wait for the paper to be moderated by >> experts in the >> field. I could be wrong here but that's my current intuition, that you >> need much smaller >> distances for the expansion to be valid. Anyhow if one can show that the >> tunneling is so >> strong at these distances the paper will be a very nice piece of >> evidence. Also the QM >> mechanism behind this expansion, can perhaps lead to further development >> so I would not >> throw the paper away. >> >> >> >>> I think Kalman has hit the nail on the heat with a version of neutron >>> exchange which is applicable to LENR, but to be honest my mental model of >>> the tunneling dynamics may not yet be what he is proposing. I hope that >>> my >>> understanding will be refined soon - since an attempt to contact Kalman >>> has >>> been made. My LENR-transposed model suggests that the two isotopes >>> (Ni61and >>> Ni58, and the other combinations) which are in the active nickel alloy, >>> are >>> adjoining at a few angstrom distance when an electron of modest energy >>> (or >>> more likely in LENR - a polariton) screens the two isotopes in such a way >>> that a neutron tunnels from the Ni61 to the N58, leaving Ni60 and Ni59 - >>> but >>> otherwise the electron does not react. What we have in the end is the >>> common >>> isotope of Ni60 and also Ni59, but since the Ni59 goes to cobalt by EC >>> with >>> no gamma, that fact makes this proposal FALSIFIABLE. The half-life is >>> long >>> but in fact small amounts of cobalt have been reported in LENR. >>> >> May be so >> >> >>> Tampe says he cannot get his mind around the Kalman model of quantum >>> tunneling, due to the mathematics - even though he is sitting in front >>> of a >>> computer which is doing billions of QM tunneling reactions per second to >>> put >>> his words into cyberspace - and that CPU can do the mathematics for him. >>> One >>> type of tunneling in nuclear and the other is electromagnetic but they >>> are >>> part of the same QM phenomena - where a particle tunnels through a >>> barrier >>> that it "classically" could not surmount. In fact, the nuclear version >>> came >>> before the semiconductor version and yet the later verifies the former. >>> >> >> It's not the tunneling that I do not understand, I have not followed all >> calculations >> and I'm really not an expert here with about a semester of QM 15 yeras >> ago, but I do not >> want say that it works and perhaps I need to stress it, it may work I >> don't know really. >> >> >> >>> Kalman may have provided one huge clue for an M.O. that opens up >>> everything. >>> It is too early to say but it is waaaaay too early to dismiss this paper >>> as >>> being too strange or too mathematical. >>> >>> >> I do not dispute that this might be the final verdict of the paper, if I >> come through as a harch >> critic, I'm sorry for that, Just that it is wise to await peer review. >> >> Cheers! >> >> > >
