On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes, if 4 don't work, try 5. If 5 fail, try 50. As they say, with enough
> variables, all data can be fit.  It never occurs to these people that their
> basic model may be wrong. They just keep adding variables and complexity
> until all the points fall on a line.
>
> Ed Storms
>

I always wanted to know what theoretical physicists have to say about that
argument. I just saw in the
swedish television a nice program that was a filosofical discussion about
science in general, and that question came out. The feeling of the expert
was that it was too much things that fell on place that they argue that the
theory should be pretty much correct and that the theory predicted things
that was shown correct. But then when I take my statistical and
mathematical hat on I just see to much opportunity to add variables that
are fitted in experiments and then the whole thing matches a theory of a
certain order, that should by some expansion fit to a more conventional
albeit perhaps a bit more nonlinear model. Then of cause the high
dimensional theory would predict the right things if what is probed is for
example the second order effects of the model.

Another pet peeve of mine is the popular argument that because we live it
must be true argument, which is fine if one also supply alternative
arguments. As an example take the realization that if the physical
constants was just a little of, then the universe would not allow us to
live and because we live, the parameters are as they are assuming a
multiverse. Another argument is that the model of all things have really
fewer parameters and hence that the parameters really are dependant. But
you never hear that possibility in the TV shows, which shows a good piece
if overconfidence of what we have today.

Cheers!
/Stefan

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