I suppose that the reactions you favor such as d + p appear to be easier to believe because it is difficult to detect the p + p immediate ash. One suspicion that I have harbored for some time now is that the p + p reaction is very common within the sun's active region. But, the energy released at that event is rampart in the local environment and can easily break up one of the nearby proton pairs so that they return to separate components. From earlier research, I saw absolute proof that PP can not remain in that form, even thought the strong force should overcome the coulomb force once they are in contact. The reason being that D is the only stable pair of nucleons and any other pair will decay into D. This includes NN or PP.
It does take time for the PP to decay into PN by the weak force, so I suspect that the reaction is not going to be all that common. The forces ready to break up the PP pair have plenty of time to do their jobs unless some mechanism exists that takes this energy out slowly. An electron capture seems to be the best bet since the 511 keV pairs are not detected. Ed's concept might be able to assist with this problem. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field induced by the rapidly changing magnetic field could accelerate protons so that they fuse. This would be a form of hot fusion if active. In the context of known physics, a p+p reaction will not go anywhere very quickly (unless Jones is right about "reversible proton fusion"). The proton-proton chain that is thought to power the sun relies upon a step in which a very unstable and short-lived [pp]* state is followed by a beta-plus decay to get a deuteron (and a positron and electron neutrino). This second step depends upon the weak interaction and is extremely slow, and hence unfavored. If the weak interaction were faster, the sun would rapidly burn through its fuel (or perhaps explode). For this reason, people proposing a p+p reaction of some kind in the context of LENR are compelled either to modify the application of the weak interaction (as in the case of Ed Storms, who seems to be saying that it just doesn't apply to the hydroton) or increase the rate of beta-plus decay by localizing energy in the system to get a neutron (Widom and Larsen) or do something else along these lines. It is the weak interaction that is causing their explanations so much difficulty. Because the weak interaction is (normally) so slow, I find the d+p, d+d, p+Ni, etc., reactions much more promising. Eric
