Thanks Jeff, I attempted to download some of the pdfs on BLP site and had no luck so far. I will look at yours next and hope for better.
I prefer classical fields over quantum mechanics provided it covers the bases. It would seem very strange to find out that the current theories are easy to replace with Mills' concepts since they appear so differently based. Who knows, one day that might occur, and I will be pleasantly surprised. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Driscoll <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 10:15 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement I have a good intro to the basics of Mills's theory (plus much more detail) at http://zhydrogen.com/ much of it is details on the hydrogen atom and hydrinos - I don't go into details of SQM (Standard Quantum Mechanics) vs CQM (Classical Quantum Mechanics) where Mills's theory is based on CQM. Mills's theory fits existing data better than standard quantum mechanics and the equations are *much* simpler and easier to understand, though it takes some elbow grease to understand it, Jeff On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: OK Mike, I desire a better understanding to what Mills has derived from classical fields. Perhaps it is appropriate for me to join that group provided I meet the qualifications. Perhaps Dr. Mills can answer my questions in person which I would appreciate greatly. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mike Carrell <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 8:42 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Dave, I am happy that you are digging in the right places. I’m no expert in this area. I suggest you join the Society for Classical Physics, moderated by Dr. John Farrell [a former mentor of Mills]. Mils monitors this forum and frequently makes terse, cogent comments. Mills asserts that his *classical physics* can do everything better than Quantum Mechanics. I am sure this point will be argued for decades. Read the introductory sections of Vol. 1 of GUTCP. The SCP is a place for those who do homework, not just hacking with misunderstanding. Mike Carrell From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:19 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Mills states: The BEC is incorrectly interpreted as a single large atom having a corresponding probability wave function of quantum mechanics. Since excitation occurs in units of ¥ in order of to conserve angular momentum as shown previously for electronic (Chapter 2), vibrational (Chapter 11), rotational (Chapter 12), and translational excitation (Chapter 3) and Bose Einstein statistics arise from an underlying deterministic physics (Chapter 24), this state comprised of an ensemble of individual atoms is predicted classically using known equations [110]. As in the case of the coherent state of photons in a laser cavity (Chapter 4), the coherency of the BEC actually disproves the inherent Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) of quantum mechanics since the atomic positions and energies are precisely determined simultaneously. Furthermore, it is possible to form a BEC comprising molecules in addition to atoms [111] wherein the molecules lack zero order vibration in contradiction to the HUP. The classical physics underlying Bose Einstein statistics was covered in the Statistical Mechanics section. These are some of my favorite ideas wahed away by Mills theory. It must be possible under Mills theory to form a BEC out of ground state hydrinos. Are there ground state hydrinos? These things are Atoms( bosons) aren't they? Let 's see an experiment that produces a hydrino BEC and look for absolute certainty and determinism. That would be something to see. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: Mike, I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns? It would seem that much of the recent quantum computing, etc. fairly well establishes that qbits exist. What is your take on them? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mike Carrell <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 9:50 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty indeed comes from truth, ad Mills’ GUTCP is very beautiful. What is easily missed is the tradition that a pioneer in science should carefully document his discovery so others can follow, and that he should address the principal features of accepted knowledge if his discovery impacts those features. This *is* what GUTCP is all about. Many have attempted a GUT and failed, including Einstein. An introduction and the orbitsphere derivation are in Vol.1, along with much else. Experimental evidence for hydrinos is outlined in the Technical Presentation on the website, with details in journal papers. The salient beautiful feature of Mills’ work is that he has a consistent system of mathematical description over 85 orders of magnitude using only measured constants. This supersedes the complexities of Quantum Mechanics, which has been fashionable for the last century. Acceptance of Mills’ work may be quite gradual. Einstein, for example got his Nobel Prize not or Relativity, but for earlier elucidation of the photoelectric effect. Mike Carrell From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:16 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement Beauty comes from truth. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] >We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally >demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory >that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are >easier to swallow. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) > >http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf > >Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron in >strongly correlated systems. > > > >The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed >matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. > > > >It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in >chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, >polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental >band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. > > > >Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a strongly >correlated chemical system? > > > >The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and >orbitals. > > > > > > >On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: >> Hi, >> [snip] >> >> I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably have >> somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very coincidental if >> these >> exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. >> The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on this >> list, >> claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a hundred. >> >> >Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy >> >levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in Hydrino >> >experiments? >> > >> > >> >On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: >> >> Hi, >> >> >How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses >> orbitals >> >> >in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the Mills >> >> >experiments can't. >> >> [snip] >> >> Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic >> >> transition >> >> energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html ________________________________________________________________________ This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department. ________________________________________________________________________ This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department. -- Jeff Driscoll 617-290-1998
