The assay of Rossi reaction ash says that 10% was iron. This reaction looks
like a good bet to be the main one in Rossi's reactor

1H+1H+62Ni => 4He + 4He + 56Fe + 3.495 MeV  <==== this one produces iron


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this post  changed my mind about fission as a source of light nuclear ash.
>
> You might get fission to lighter elements, if you initially add enough
> energy in
> the form of excess mass to more than make up for the energy deficit.
> Yes that means Hydrogen fusion with the Ni. However there is only one 62Ni
> fission reaction that is exothermic if only one proton is added, and that
> is the
> reaction:-
>
> 1H+62Ni => 59Co + 4He + 0.346 MeV
>
> However, if 2 protons are added simultaneously, there are many more
> possible
> exothermic reactions, e.g. :-
>
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 63Zn + n + 1.974 MeV
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 64Zn + 13.835 MeV
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 63Cu + 1H + 6.122 MeV
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 60Ni + 4He + 9.879 MeV
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 4He + 4He + 56Fe + 3.495 MeV  <==== this one produces iron.
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 52Cr + 12C + 3.249 MeV
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 48Ti + 16O + 1.057 MeV
> 1H+1H+62Ni => 34S + 30Si + 2.197 MeV
>
> The last 4 produce lighter elements.
>
> There are also similar reactions for the other Ni isotopes, and also for
> the
> daughter products of the initial reactions, e.g. :-
>
>
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 66Ge + 10.202 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 65Ga + 1H + 3.942 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 62Zn + 4He + 7.321 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 4He + 4He + 58Ni + 3.860 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 54Fe + 12C + 4.827 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 50Cr + 16O + 3.571 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 42Ca + 24Mg + 1.055 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 36Ar + 30Si + 3.239 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 37Ar + 29Si + 1.417 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 38Ar + 28Si + 4.782 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 35Cl + 31P + 2.029 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 33S + 33S + 1.746 MeV
> 1H+1H+64Zn => 34S + 32S + 4.522 MeV
>
> Note the many light elements/isotopes.
>
> Generally speaking by the time one gets to the mid-range elements, fission
> becomes much less likely when only a single nucleon is added (one can see
> this
> by checking neutron absorption cross sections). However concurrent
> addition of
> *two* protons could be a whole different kettle of fish.
>
> Why do I even consider two proton additions? Because a severely shrunken
> Hydrino
> molecule is electrically neutral and even more massive than a neutron, so I
> think it may be possible for it to pass through the electron shells of
> other
> atoms and approach the nucleus, just as neutrons do.
>
> And they bring two protons to the party *at the same time*.
>
> Note that just because a reaction is exothermic, that doesn't necessarily
> mean
> that it will happen frequently/easily or even at all for that matter.
>
> Furthermore, the more energy/mass that is initially added, the more likely
> fission becomes. Since it is also possible for two Hydrino molecules to be
> magnetically bound together, reactions involving the addition of 4 protons
> may
> also be possible, e.g. :-
>
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 65Ge + n + 10.750 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 66Ge + 24.037 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 63Ga + 3H + 4.007 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 64Ga + 2H + 8.108 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 65Ga + 1H + 17.778 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 61Zn + 5He + 7.372 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 62Zn + 4He + 21.156 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 63Zn + 3He + 9.692 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 59Cu + 7Li + 3.859 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 60Cu + 6Li + 6.667 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 61Cu + 5Li + 12.713 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 56Ni + 10Be + 3.707 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 57Ni + 9Be + 7.144 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 4He + 4He + 58Ni + 17.696 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 59Ni + 7Be + 7.795 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 60Ni + 6Be + 8.507 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 55Co + 11B + 7.769 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 56Co + 10B + 6.398 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 57Co + 9B + 9.338 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 52Fe + 14C + 7.721 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 53Fe + 13C + 10.230 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 54Fe + 12C + 18.662 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 55Fe + 11C + 9.239 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 56Fe + 10C + 7.316 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 51Mn + 15N + 10.550 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 52Mn + 14N + 10.252 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 53Mn + 13N + 11.752 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 54Mn + 12N + 0.627 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 48Cr + 18O + 6.010 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 49Cr + 17O + 8.549 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 50Cr + 16O + 17.406 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 51Cr + 15O + 11.003 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 52Cr + 14O + 9.819 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 47V + 19F + 5.899 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 48V + 18F + 6.011 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 49V + 17F + 8.415 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 50V + 16F + 0.951 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 44Ti + 22Ne + 7.983 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 45Ti + 21Ne + 7.147 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 46Ti + 20Ne + 13.575 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 47Ti + 19Ne + 5.591 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 48Ti + 18Ne + 5.580 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 41Sc + 25Na + 0.410 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 42Sc + 24Na + 2.949 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 43Sc + 23Na + 8.128 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 44Sc + 22Na + 5.408 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 45Sc + 21Na + 5.662 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 39Ca + 27Mg + 4.271 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 40Ca + 26Mg + 13.471 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 41Ca + 25Mg + 10.740 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 42Ca + 24Mg + 14.890 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 43Ca + 23Mg + 6.292 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 44Ca + 22Mg + 4.275 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 37K + 29Al + 5.425 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 38K + 28Al + 8.061 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 39K + 27Al + 13.413 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 40K + 26Al + 8.155 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 41K + 25Al + 6.885 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 34Ar + 32Si + 4.868 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 35Ar + 31Si + 8.406 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 36Ar + 30Si + 17.074 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 37Ar + 29Si + 15.252 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 38Ar + 28Si + 18.617 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 39Ar + 27Si + 8.036 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 40Ar + 26Si + 4.594 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 32Cl + 34P + 0.297 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 33Cl + 33P + 9.751 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 34Cl + 32P + 11.155 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 35Cl + 31P + 15.864 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 36Cl + 30P + 12.132 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 37Cl + 29P + 11.124 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 33S + 33S + 15.582 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 34S + 32S + 18.357 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 35S + 31S + 10.301 MeV
> 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni => 36S + 30S + 7.137 MeV
>
> As you can see, this may produce masses of light elements.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> First off, the production of only stable isotopes via fusion, points to
>> no transfer of any angular momentum or kinetic energy by the cold fusion
>> reaction. This points to photofusion.
>>
>> The report that only even numbers of protons and neutrons in the nucleus
>> before fusion resulting in a zero nuclear spin points to photofusion.
>>
>> The clue that transmutation is not due to fission which cannot happen
>> because of  negative energy coming out of the fission reaction or multiple
>> separate serial fusion events because multiple lighter elements are
>> produced by fusion; so the cause must be a result of one massive fusion
>> reaction  of many diprotons into the nickel atom. This points to a total
>> removal of nuclear repulsion for all these nucleons which all combine
>> into two or more lighter  resultant nuclei. Also the production of all
>> those highly concentrated cooper pairs of protons point to suspension of
>> nuclear repulsion.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/3/14, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Let us discuss this reference:...
>>>
>>> No, let us discuss an experiment of YOUR design, the results of which
>>> would differentiate YOUR theory from competing theories.
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:53 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Theory is not made of repetition and citation but of reflection and
>>> >> experimental testing.
>>> >>
>>> >> One of the nice things about coming up with a novel theory is it
>>> allows
>>> >> you to come up with novel experiments and if appropriately tempered by
>>> >> economic those experiments may be quite practical.
>>> >>
>>> >> What is your experimental test?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I speak with the authority of repetition. I have gone over this stuff
>>> >>> fifty times and no one has countered me except Ed Storms to my great
>>> >>> joy.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Theory is not made of sunshine and roses. Like steel, it is tempered
>>> by
>>> >>> repeated blows and forged in fire, between the hammer and the anvil.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  In each post I provide one or more supporting references. All the
>>> >>> opinions I provide are based on established science as defined by the
>>> >>> references I list.
>>> >>>
>>> >> http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0306126v2.pdf
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As above In this thread, I provide a reference on how EMF frequencies
>>> >>> can
>>> >>> be both down shifted and up shifted in an optical cavity. This is
>>> called
>>> >>> Fano resonance. I have described Fano resonance hundreds of times as
>>> >>> simple
>>> >>> as I can. Who else has provided a reference in this thread? No one!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:29 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Axil, you speak with the authority of one who knows -- perhaps even
>>> >>>> more
>>> >>>> so than ChemE.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Does your authoritative knowledge shed light on an economical
>>> >>>> demonstration of that knowledge?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Radioisotopes are not produced in LENR  when the nucleus is
>>> suppressed
>>> >>>>> (coulomb barrio screened) by magnetic fields, because these
>>> photons do
>>> >>>>> not
>>> >>>>> excite the nuclus like neutrons do. They carry no angular momentum
>>> or
>>> >>>>> kinetic energy to excite the nucleus.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Eric Walker
>>> >>>>> <eric.wal...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jed Rothwell
>>> >>>>>> <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> These discussions about "suppressing" gamma rays and neutrons have
>>> >>>>>>> been around since the beginning of cold fusion.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> It is true that some people in this thread have been arguing about
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>> suppression of MeV-range gammas.  Like you say, this sounds pretty
>>> >>>>>> far-out.
>>> >>>>>>  Better not to have powerful gammas in the first place.  What is
>>> more
>>> >>>>>> interesting in the recent discussion is whether p+Ni fusion is
>>> ruled
>>> >>>>>> out by
>>> >>>>>> the evidence, and that has been what has absorbed a lot of our
>>> >>>>>> attention.
>>> >>>>>>  If low-level penetrating radiation is not allowed (e.g., photons
>>> in
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>> keV range, some of which might be considered "gammas"), then p+Ni
>>> is
>>> >>>>>> contraindicated, because everything we know about p+Ni says that
>>> it
>>> >>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>> result in short-lived radioisotopes and associated emissions
>>> after it
>>> >>>>>> takes
>>> >>>>>> place, for a period of hours or days.  If low-level radiation is
>>> >>>>>> allowed,
>>> >>>>>> then p+Ni is not necessarily ruled out.  That is the heart of
>>> much of
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>> recent thread.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Jones wants to say that there is no penetrating radiation
>>> whatsoever
>>> >>>>>> in NiH.  He no doubt has his reversible proton fusion in mind.  Ed
>>> >>>>>> wants to
>>> >>>>>> say that what low-level radiation there is above a very low
>>> threshold
>>> >>>>>> is
>>> >>>>>> due to side channels (if I have understood him).  He has his
>>> hydroton
>>> >>>>>> in
>>> >>>>>> mind.  I've argued that the evidence bears otherwise on both
>>> counts,
>>> >>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>> that low-level penetrating radiation is both seen and is perhaps
>>> >>>>>> inherent
>>> >>>>>> to NiH cold fusion and not due to a side channel.  Although this
>>> >>>>>> discussion
>>> >>>>>> might look like the usual discussion about MeV gammas, really it
>>> has
>>> >>>>>> been a
>>> >>>>>> discussion about short-lived radioisotopes that follow upon
>>> whatever
>>> >>>>>> it is
>>> >>>>>> that cold fusion consists of.  So we've been having a discussion
>>> that
>>> >>>>>> is
>>> >>>>>> different than the usual "gamma" discussion.  Rossi's terminology
>>> >>>>>> confuses
>>> >>>>>> things, because he appears to refer to all photons in his system
>>> as
>>> >>>>>> gammas.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Eric
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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