Perhaps I can illustrate by avoiding thermal detection and going with tritium:
Since tritium production is inherently time integrated, setting up a Cravens style dual experiment with a one treated to have a wide range of crack sizes, and both identical in all other respects, puts the primary cost constraint on the beta-emission counter. Can such counters be made economical? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ed, I'm attacking a different problem: Cost. > > Since we're in a quasi-Edisonian phase of scientific research, keeping the > cost per experiment as low as possible seems to be the bottleneck to > getting a protocol that has reproduces the FPE to any statistically > significant degree. > > Developing a different kind of experimental set up may be the key. > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> James, I feel much more comfortable using a calorimeter design I can >> trust and that has been used in the past. The Cravens device is a nice >> demonstration but it proves nothing. I have made calorimeters that do the >> job much better and give absolute values for power. No need exists to >> reinvent. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:27 PM, James Bowery wrote: >> >> If you are running a Cravens style simultaneous, colocated control >> experiment with infinite COP your odds of detecting a tiny temperature >> difference economically are vastly improved. Basically you just integrate >> the voltage out of a bimetallic (thermocoupling) wall separating the >> treated material from the untreated material in a common vessel that >> provides a small amount of gas communication between the chambers for >> pressure equalization. This is not an expensive device. >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: >> >>> Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the >>> right size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right >>> size will not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium >>> is used to detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using >>> fewer active sites. However, these methods have not been used very often, >>> probably because the tools and skill are not common. >>> >>> Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear. As a >>> result, production of LENR is unstable. This makes the effect occur for >>> brief times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening >>> rather than a random event. >>> >>> Ed Storms >>> >>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms >>> <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these >>>> at the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different >>>> ways, but getting the right size is the problem. >>>> >>>> Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack >>> sizes? >>> >>> >>> >> >> >