Alain, you can find the description of the Hydroton at

http://coldfusionnow.org/iccf-18-presentation-videos-monday-july-22/
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf

Ed Storms

On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:

> beyond cracks , maybe is there some topological defect, longitudinal defects, 
> crystallographic-phase change planes...
> 
> is there document about hydroton.
> 
> naively among possibilities I imagine a circular hydroton ring and thing 
> about a superconductor.. to explain magnetic fields.
> maybe stupid...
> 
> 
> 2014-03-22 22:12 GMT+01:00 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>:
> Dear Ed,
> 
> The most dangerous aspect of the addiction of CF to cracks is that caracks 
> are destroying the active material, so technologically speaking the crack 
> theory is a death sentence. It can be true for palladium, but less noble 
> transition metals are working hopefully in a different way. PdD and NiH are 
> probably quite different species.
> Peter 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> If I had such a method, I would first write a patent. Unfortunately, that is 
> the method we are trying to find.  I can make cracks anytime I want but I can 
> not make the most effective distribution at will, although I get lucky 
> sometimes.
> 
> Ed Storms
> 
> On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:58 PM, James Bowery wrote:
> 
>> I may have inadequately expressed what I was looking for:
>> 
>> A technique to generate, in a single sample, a wide and relatively flat 
>> (very low kurtosis) distribution of crack sizes (and a large number of such 
>> cracks of course).
>> 
>> This, as opposed to a wide array of techniques, each of which generates 
>> different but relatively narrow distribution of crack sizes.
>> 
>> Obviously if you have a sensitive detection technique, like tritium with 
>> scintillation, you would prefer applying a single technique to a single 
>> sample and getting detectable tritium -- however small.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> I know of no single paper that describes how cracks are formed. However, a 
>> huge literature exists that describe how cracks are produced in materials 
>> and how this destructive process can be avoided. I have 69 papers in my 
>> collection that address this issue.  Unless you are prepared to do a lot of 
>> study, an answer to your question is not easy to supply.
>> 
>> Ed Storms
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:39 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there a paper describing the technique(s) for generating a wide 
>>> distribution of crack sizes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Tritium can not be detected easily using a beta detector. The best way is 
>>> to convert the gas to water and measure the tritium using the scintillation 
>>> metaod. The allows the sample to be studied over a period of time by many 
>>> people if they wish. 
>>> 
>>> Ed Storms
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:02 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps I can illustrate by avoiding thermal detection and going with 
>>>> tritium:
>>>> 
>>>> Since tritium production is inherently time integrated, setting up a 
>>>> Cravens style dual experiment with a one treated to have a wide range of 
>>>> crack sizes, and both identical in all other respects, puts the primary 
>>>> cost constraint on the beta-emission counter.  Can such counters be made 
>>>> economical?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ed, I'm attacking a different problem:  Cost.
>>>> 
>>>> Since we're in a quasi-Edisonian phase of scientific research, keeping the 
>>>> cost per experiment as low as possible seems to be the bottleneck to 
>>>> getting a protocol that has reproduces the FPE to any statistically 
>>>> significant degree.
>>>> 
>>>> Developing a different kind of experimental set up may be the key.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> James, I feel much more comfortable using a calorimeter design I can trust 
>>>> and that has been used in the past. The Cravens device is a nice 
>>>> demonstration but it proves nothing. I have made calorimeters that do the 
>>>> job much better and give absolute values for power.  No need exists to 
>>>> reinvent. 
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Storms
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:27 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If you are running a Cravens style simultaneous, colocated control 
>>>>> experiment with infinite COP your odds of detecting a tiny temperature 
>>>>> difference economically are vastly improved.  Basically you just 
>>>>> integrate the voltage out of a bimetallic (thermocoupling) wall 
>>>>> separating the treated material from the untreated material in a common 
>>>>> vessel that provides a small amount of gas communication between the 
>>>>> chambers for pressure equalization.  This is not an expensive device.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right 
>>>>> size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size 
>>>>> will not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is 
>>>>> used to detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer 
>>>>> active sites.  However, these methods have not been used very often, 
>>>>> probably because the tools and skill are not common.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result, 
>>>>> production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief 
>>>>> times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather 
>>>>> than a random event. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed Storms
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these at 
>>>>>> the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different 
>>>>>> ways, but getting the right size is the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack 
>>>>>> sizes? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
> 

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