Tritium can not be detected easily using a beta detector. The best way is to 
convert the gas to water and measure the tritium using the scintillation 
metaod. The allows the sample to be studied over a period of time by many 
people if they wish. 

Ed Storms
On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:02 PM, James Bowery wrote:

> Perhaps I can illustrate by avoiding thermal detection and going with tritium:
> 
> Since tritium production is inherently time integrated, setting up a Cravens 
> style dual experiment with a one treated to have a wide range of crack sizes, 
> and both identical in all other respects, puts the primary cost constraint on 
> the beta-emission counter.  Can such counters be made economical?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ed, I'm attacking a different problem:  Cost.
> 
> Since we're in a quasi-Edisonian phase of scientific research, keeping the 
> cost per experiment as low as possible seems to be the bottleneck to getting 
> a protocol that has reproduces the FPE to any statistically significant 
> degree.
> 
> Developing a different kind of experimental set up may be the key.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote:
> James, I feel much more comfortable using a calorimeter design I can trust 
> and that has been used in the past. The Cravens device is a nice 
> demonstration but it proves nothing. I have made calorimeters that do the job 
> much better and give absolute values for power.  No need exists to reinvent. 
> 
> Ed Storms
> 
> On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:27 PM, James Bowery wrote:
> 
>> If you are running a Cravens style simultaneous, colocated control 
>> experiment with infinite COP your odds of detecting a tiny temperature 
>> difference economically are vastly improved.  Basically you just integrate 
>> the voltage out of a bimetallic (thermocoupling) wall separating the treated 
>> material from the untreated material in a common vessel that provides a 
>> small amount of gas communication between the chambers for pressure 
>> equalization.  This is not an expensive device.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right 
>> size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size will 
>> not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is used to 
>> detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer active 
>> sites.  However, these methods have not been used very often, probably 
>> because the tools and skill are not common.
>> 
>>  Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result, 
>> production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief 
>> times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather than 
>> a random event. 
>> 
>> Ed Storms
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these at 
>>> the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different ways, 
>>> but getting the right size is the problem.
>>> 
>>> Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack 
>>> sizes? 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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