Again, I am strictly an amateur at theoretical solid state physics; I cannot attest to having an "understanding".
Since the energy reduction for the Millsian inverse Rydberg states is quantized, even though it cannot radiate, the extraction mechanism must be capable of withdrawing some large quanta - in the 50eV range (>10x most chemical reactions). This is why you don't see ordinary chemical processes creating inverse Rydberg states. While all of the mechanisms you describe sound like possible evanescent couplings, I guess you have to ask yourself, which ones could possibly extract a 50eV quantum from the hydrogen and then where would it go? I think this is where Dr. Storms' linear hydroton structure would come into play. The hydroton could absorb the 50eV into its macro vibrational mode until some radiation mechanism dissipated it. Just to be fair, such quanta could also be extracted in something like Dr. Kim's magnetically trapped condensate of hydrogen atoms if the condensate absorbed the energy as a whole and divided the 50eV amongst the condensate atoms. Once divided, it is not clear how the condensate would rid itself of this energy, but many avenues are possible. The scenario of successive ratcheting down the energy of the hydron BEFORE it fuses is highly desirable because it answers the question of why there isn't a strong gamma emission leaking out when fusion occurs - the energy is withdrawn in small chunks BEFORE the fusion can happen and fusion can only happen with the very low energy hydron. Mills response to this, I would think, would be yes, but no fusion happens at the end. You just get the energy out from ratcheting the hydron into a hydrino. Bob On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Bob-- > > What is your understanding of the energy transfer mechanism involved in > the evanescent coupling (non-radiative) phenomena? > > The ones we know about are vibrational lattice damping, spin coupling, > spin orbit force coupling, electro-weak force coupling, gravitational > coupling and maybe others unknown. Some of these may be controlled more or > less by the local magnetic field which change the parameters of allowed > transitions as exist in a quantum system with its quantum energy states, > whatever they may be at any instant particular instant in time. > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is Mizuno poining at Ryberg matter or not? > > Keep in mind that "Rydberg matter" does not normally describe "shrunken" > hydrogen. Shrunken hydrogen has its electron in a reduced orbital at an > energy state below the normally accepted ground state. This has been > variously described as "inverse Rydberg" and "fractional Rydberg" or > "hydrino" (Mills) states that are all below ground level. Mills describes > multiple fractional states below ground level. There is an older reference > to a Deep Dirac Level or DDL that is also a shrunken hydrogen. > > Most normal hydrogen states, including the normal (non-fractional) Rydberg > states are entered and departed via emission/absorbtion of a photon of the > correct energy level. Transitions to fractional Rydberg states (below > normal ground level) can only achieved by evanescent coupling > (non-radiative) to the atom according to Mills. Incontrovertible evidence > for the fractional states has never been provided, though Mills makes a > pretty good case. It may turn out that LENR could prove the existence of > these fractional states. > > I will leave it to the more skilled theorists to say whether the shrunken > states (fractional Rydberg) of hydrogen are implicated in LENR - but to me, > the possibility does seem compelling. In Dr. Storms' theory, when his > hydroton is formed in the NAE (crack), he describes the hydroton as > removing the energy in the hydrogen atom before it fuses such that there is > little energy remaining to be released when the fusion occurs. One way to > successively remove the energy in such a hydroton configuration may be the > progressive conversion to an ever more fractional state, and when Mills' > minimum size of 1/137 is reached, fusion occurs. The hydroton > configuration could provide the evanescent coupling needed to take the H to > fractional levels. > > Bob Higgins > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Teslaalset <robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Recent positive responses to Mizuno's work present recently at MIT >> by Yoshino made me look at his work presented at ICCF >> 18<http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTmethodofco.pdf>last year. >> In section 1.1 of this presentation Mizuno hints in my view at Rydberg >> matter but does not actually mention Rydberg. >> Bullet #4 and #5 indicates he thinks some involved atoms schrink in size >> and in bullet #10 he indicates that alkali and alkaline-earth elements show >> identical effects. >> >> Looking to general description of Rydberg atoms, it is indicated that >> Rydberg atoms are extremely large with loosely bound valence electrons. >> >> Any opinions on these observations/assumptions? >> >> >> >> >
