The video states that the neutron production is 10,000,000 less than would be expected if neutrons were supporting the LENR reaction and this implies that there is a aneutonic reaction involved in LENR.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote: > The conundrum is that neutrons are NEVER seen in LENR reactions. > > What? While they've not been observed in commensuration with the excess > heat, to say they're "NEVER seen" is just wrong. Maybe you're only speaking > in reference to NiH? You have to be more clear. You seem familiar with > Mizuno's work. Didn't you know he was one of the first scientists to find > evidence for neutron emissions? I don't think neutrons are relevant to the > excess heat reaction either by the way, but neutron emissions are present > in many of these systems. In fact there was an entire panel devoted to the > subject of neutrons at ICCF 18: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHYEITEvB40 > > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *where we see additions of other elements (copper, iron, etc.) in their >> natural isotopic ratios, this is due to successive neutron and proton >> capture reactions, selected for favorable energy release.* >> >> The conundrum is that neutrons are NEVER seen in LENR reactions. How can >> isotopes change without the presence of neutrons, The total lack of >> neutrons is an important dot to be connected. >> >> Free Neutrons would be floating around if the LENR reaction was not >> instantaneous and multiple like in uranium fission. >> >> In LENR, It looks like isotopes change instantaneously in a single >> reaction. >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> it sure looks to me like the protons and neutrons in the input material >>>> are being chopped up, blended together, and reformed into a wide range of >>>> both light and heavy output elements. ... For example, in the Mizuno >>>> reaction, it looks like the neutrons of deuterium in the hydrogen envelope >>>> are being reformatted into an equal number of protons in a reaction that >>>> takes energy to perform (endothermic). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is LENR doing to those deuterium atoms? It also looks like the >>>> metal lattice substrate is being changed. >>>> >>> >>> Another possibility is that we're seeing some fairly mundane things here: >>> >>> - where additional protons are being seen, there is spallation of >>> deuterium from prompt particles. >>> - where isotopes are shifting by several protons, there is pile-on >>> of multiple proton capture reactions occurring (there's no clear reason >>> that the shifts would need to be instantaneous). >>> - where we see additions of other elements (copper, iron, etc.) in >>> their natural isotopic ratios, this is due to successive neutron and >>> proton >>> capture reactions, selected for favorable energy release. >>> >>> This line of explanation is probably much less plausible than one >>> involving QCD or the Higgs field, of course. ;) >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >> >
