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Lack of neutrons is one of the major barriers to belief in LENR by those
who expect isotope change to be a neutron connected process.


On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> *where we see additions of other elements (copper, iron, etc.) in their
> natural isotopic ratios, this is due to successive neutron and proton
> capture reactions, selected for favorable energy release.*
>
> The conundrum is that neutrons are NEVER seen in LENR reactions. How can
> isotopes change without the presence of neutrons, The total lack of
> neutrons is an important dot to be connected.
>
> Free Neutrons would be floating around if the LENR reaction was not
> instantaneous and multiple like in uranium fission.
>
> In LENR, It looks like isotopes change instantaneously in a single
> reaction.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> it sure looks to me like the protons and neutrons in the input material
>>> are being chopped up, blended together, and reformed into a wide range of
>>> both light and heavy output elements. ... For example, in the Mizuno
>>> reaction, it looks like the neutrons of deuterium in the hydrogen envelope
>>> are being reformatted into an equal number of protons in a reaction that
>>> takes energy to perform (endothermic).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is LENR doing to those deuterium atoms? It also looks like the
>>> metal lattice substrate is being changed.
>>>
>>
>> Another possibility is that we're seeing some fairly mundane things here:
>>
>>    - where additional protons are being seen, there is spallation of
>>    deuterium from prompt particles.
>>    - where isotopes are shifting by several protons, there is pile-on of
>>    multiple proton capture reactions occurring (there's no clear reason that
>>    the shifts would need to be instantaneous).
>>    - where we see additions of other elements (copper, iron, etc.) in
>>    their natural isotopic ratios, this is due to successive neutron and 
>> proton
>>    capture reactions, selected for favorable energy release.
>>
>> This line of explanation is probably much less plausible than one
>> involving QCD or the Higgs field, of course.   ;)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>

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