They have developed a polariton laser that works at room temperature. That means that polaritons can form coherent and entangled ensembles of SPPs (BEC) when properly pumped.
See Exciton and Polariton Condensation http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf Polaritons are as low mass as photons which can produce condensates. The temperature limit on condensate formation is at least 2300K. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Axil, don't misunderstand, I have definitely read reference material > concerning what you're talking about. I find a lot of it interesting and > possibly suggestive of what might be going on in plasmatic NiH systems. I > don't take any current theory as "the truth" -- yours or Ed's. I have > questions about all of them. Like all theories at this point, the idea of > plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps of faith & assumptions that I > don't think are yet born out by experiment. There's hints, as you've > stated, that could be connected, but they don't necessarily have to be. But > again, at least it seems like w/ NiH you're trying to put together some > experimental tests, which I appreciate & like about what you're doing. > Also, I know you trust all the DGT data, but I don't, so we're at an > impasse there. I will be very excited if they are actually doing legitimate > mass spectroscopy work as promised however. > > Regards, > John > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I will answer the other two, but I also hope that you will attempt to >> understand some Nanoplasmonics. Just read the intro, and concentrate on how >> hot spots work. Please....I need more targets. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for a bit about your background, I appreciate that. But you still >>> have two more to go before the toll is paid I'm afraid. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, I will pay your price so here is #2 >>>> >>>> * Do you have a background in science, a self-taught amateur, or >>>> somewhere in between? I don't think it's fair to be completely anonymous >>>> when putting forth some sort of grand unified TOE.* >>>> >>>> I have a degree in physics, but make a living as a system engineer. I >>>> specialize in reverse engineering old system's where all info about >>>> how they work and what they do has been lose to the ravages of time. I >>>> study such systems in order to upgrade them to a new and/or higher level >>>> of technology. >>>> >>>> The skill set that I have perfected over many years is a great help >>>> in connecting the dots. I believe I can connect the dots with the best of >>>> them. A systems engineer is a generalist and a good one will >>>> become competent or expert is any technology that is required to understand >>>> how a given system works. >>>> >>>> As a paranoid, I am afraid of Putin. When Putin finds out that the LENR >>>> GUT has destroyed his dreams, his friends, and is removing him from power, >>>> he will be pissed and being unknown to him for as long as possible is >>>> reassuring to me. >>>> >>>> And there are many centers of power like Putin. >>>> >>>> Rossi has said that he has protection. I think that he does >>>> but I surly don't. >>>> >>>> The more people who know how LENR works, the more targets there will be >>>> during the big reveal. But no one is willing to take that path. I want more >>>> target so I am not the only one. Any volunteers? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I know you can explain them away. That's not much of an >>>>> accomplishment. Are you going to take the time to answer the other three >>>>> questions I posed to you before we go off on this tangent? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR, >>>>>> something which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories like >>>>>> Kim's or Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still confront >>>>>> a >>>>>> number of problems as you probably know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Great, let us talk about these problems. I don't see problems. I bet >>>>>> I can explain away these problems. Please give be a shot at that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK...you sort of lost me. What are you getting at exactly? It >>>>>>> doesn't contradict what I wrote in the slightest. Yeah, fermions & >>>>>>> bosons >>>>>>> play different roles in nuclear process, in all processes actually -- so >>>>>>> what? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR, >>>>>>> something which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> Kim's or Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still >>>>>>> confront a >>>>>>> number of problems as you probably know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One can just as easily picture a more general process (as I >>>>>>> just highlighted in two different hot fusion systems), absent of >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> phase transitions, occurring across different LENR systems. Based on the >>>>>>> evidence so far, I think at best it could be argued that there a draw >>>>>>> exists between the two points of view. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I appreciate you clearing up any confusions. Take care. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Foks0904 . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> …But in many cases, under the umbrella of a general process, such >>>>>>>> as traditional nuclear reactions, despite the difference, the different >>>>>>>> isotopes all tend to follow the same general script in terms of how a >>>>>>>> reaction path progresses and generates effects. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not so! Bosons are very different from Fermions – profoundly >>>>>>>> different when it comes to nuclear interaction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Enough said? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >