Bob --
If I understood the last paper from 13 the folks from Los Alamos wrote, commenting on the Kim rejection of the DDL theory, the most likely electron energy state to best support the approach of two H atoms in a molecule and induce fusion is not the lowest energy state (DDL) but one about 10 levels above the lowest state. I realize this sounds wrong, but they indicated that the shape of the wave function associated with the nuclei of hydrogen changes the probability of fusion in the relativistic model for interaction. Also they suggest that the introduction of magnetic fields would change the drop of electrons from a helical path to a straight line making it more likely that they get to the lowest DDL directly with emission of a more energetic photon than would be seen with a spiral path. Although they did not mention it, I deduced that a spiral path may in fact induce fusion with a higher probability since passage through higher energy states would be encountered in the reaction. Again this assumes that I correctly understand their conclusion about the most probably fusion condition for electrons was about 10 levels above the lowest level. Bob You Sent from Windows Mail From: Bob Higgins Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:54 AM To: [email protected] Jones, I don't understand the basis for this "conclusion". It is well known that muons catalyze fusion to a reasonably high rate and that the primary reason is Coulombic screening to a much smaller inter-nuclear separation due to the fact that the muon orbital radius is so much smaller than the electron orbital radius. We also know that DDL state hydrogen (if it exists) would have a much smaller orbital radius than that of the muonic orbital. Thus, a DDL state hydrogen will be screened to much closer separation than a muonic pair and would be more likely to fuse with another like DDL hydrogen than a muonic isotope (but it doesn't have a catalytic action like the muon). If a DDL molecule of HH, HD, DD, etc forms, fusion is highly probable. If we presume that the f/H Mills' states form, it is a separate question whether these atoms will fuse because the intermediate f/H radii are not as small as the ~1/137 DDL state. However, if you have an engine that can crank the atoms into the f/H states, could not that same engine keep ratcheting the atoms down in fraction/size toward that ultimate DDL state? The NAE (engine) that Storms proposes, would be a match made in heaven for this type of ratcheting down in size. Further, because the atoms would be part of a multi-H chain, the formation of the molecular species is highly likely and the molecules could be ratcheted down in fraction in lock step with the assembly radiating away the energy at each step. It is interesting that the Dirac equation doesn't seem to predict the intermediate f/H eigenvalues that Mills predicts. One interesting thought is that the intermediate f/H states may only be a property of the fractional molecular form. I have not seen that anyone has calculated the eigenvalues of the more complicated 4-body problem of molecular H from a Dirac-like formulation. The calculation would have to be formulated without simplifying assumptions and then the eigenvalues would have to be calculated without simplifications that could obscure unexpected states. This would probably best be tested by using a computer to evaluate the solution space numerically without simplifying assumptions. Bob Higgins On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bob Cook Jones, do you know what they said about the possible reactions in the ref 7 document noted above? Their comments may be of interest to LENR as well as dark matter. The unavoidable conclusion, whether they like it or not, has to be that the DDL does not lead to fusion, but can lead to thermal gain.

