Who appointed you judge and jury in this forum? I didn't get that memo.
LOL...
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Lowe" <[email protected]>
To: "vortex-l" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
Jojo and Daniel,
Take the religious crap offline. It doesn't belong here.
To remain on topic, Defkalion's web site has been suspended.
http://defkalion-energy.com
Doesn't make me feel very confident that a LENR device is forthcoming.
- Brad
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
wrote:
That is a misconception. God does not require every Christian to sell
all
they have and give to the poor. This command was for a specific person
who
was rich and his riches was hindering him from serving God. For some
Christians, riches do not hinder them. It's simply a question of
priority;
not mutual exclusivity.
If you want to be contentious about this; I only ask that you study the
life
of Lydia and Philemon. Did they sell all they had after their
conversion?
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Rocha
To: John Milstone
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
If they were Christians, they left all behind after convertion:
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and
give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow
me."
http://biblehub.com/matthew/19-21.htm
2014-08-20 15:13 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>:
They were believers in the true God just like Christians today. But if
you want to be picky and unreasonable about it, here are a few examples
of
rich Christians.
1. Joseph of Arithmatea was rich. He owned his own private tomb hewn
from a rock. A very expensive piece of exclusive real estate at that
time.
2. Barnabas owned land worth enough to feed the whole Jerusalem church.
The church at that time was at least 5000 men strong. This would be a
membership of over 20,000 if you include women and children.
3. Lydia was a seller of purple. Purple was the clothing for kings and
royals. She was rich enough to be associated with kings and royals.
4. Philemon was rich. He had many servants and a house with guest room
for Paul. At that time, a family normally lived in a house with one
room.
The living room was the kitchen, the dinning room, the bedroom.
Philemon
has a hosue with multiple rooms and he maintained many servants. He was
rich.
5. Luke was a medical doctor. A very expensive and rare vocation at
that
time, which means his family must have been rich enough to send him
everywhere to learn medicine. They didn't have centralized medical
colleges, if you want to be a doctor, you have to travel everywhere and
learn from many people and places.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Rocha
To: John Milstone
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
Those people were not Christians.
2014-08-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>:
You seem to be implying that one can not be both a Christian and Rich.
If so, I can assure you that is not the case. Here are a few examples
for
you:
1. Joseph was a believer and was the 2nd in command in Egypt. He was
rich in power, money and Glory
2. Abraham was very rich with thousands upon thousands of sheep and
camels, and a household with 400 able-bodied fighting men. This guy
had his
own private army bigger than the army of many city states at that time.
His
men was able to defeat 4 kings and their armies. If he had 400
fighting
men, the size of his household must be between 3000-5000 people. That
is
rich.
3. Job was the "greatest man in the east". Job was from the area of
Ur.
The region we know as the fertile crescent - Shinar or Babylon - the
cradle
of civilization. So, Job was the richest man in the world at that
time.
When God was done blessing him, he was twice as rich.
4. Solomon had brass that could not be counted. Enough gold and silver
to overlay all the surfaces of the large building - the temple he
built.
The guy was richer than anyone alive today.
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Daniel Rocha - RJ
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Daniel Rocha - RJ
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