If the energy release is as great as claimed by Mills then the transformer losses should be swamped by the energy output.
If all you have is a particular kind of electrode in contact with water then the solution is pretty obvious: Submerge the electrode in water as a bulk calorimeter, run it for a reasonable integration period measuring the power input to the transformer and then get the water temperature rise. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Jack Cole <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know how to measure the input power. We're talking 2-5V and > 3000-4000 amps. I'd be scared to hook my oscilloscope up to it. You could > maybe do it on the supply side from the 110AC with a watt meter, but that > would be the power going in to the transformer. > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> A very thin film of water on a piece of wire should not change the >> impedance that much. Certainly not explain the clearly more intense light >> output. There appears to be something going on here. >> >> Jack, it might help if you measured the temperature and humidity as you >> are performing the tests. >> >> The output power can be measured with a small solar panel. >> >> That leaves the input power. Any ideas on how to measure input power? >> Other than a watthour meter, I'm out. Although I doubt a common watthour >> meter would be sensitive enough. Another option is an oscilloscope on the >> electrodes. >> >> >> >> >> >> Jojo >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* David Roberson <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:01 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt >> >> Interesting results Jack. Could it be that with copper only the >> conductivity of the path is so low that the voltage is nearly shorted out >> at the pellet? This excellent short might prevent the voltage from rising >> enough thereby keeping the power and energy into the pellet at a low value. >> >> A water film by contrast has much more impedance than copper and that >> will result in a voltage increase and hence more energy being delivered. >> What I am describing is related to the concept of matching the source >> impedance to get the maximum power from the source. In that case an open >> or short will have zero power delivered. You may have a near zero >> condition with copper only and a much better power match with the water >> film. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jack Cole <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 6:39 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt >> >> It was with a tiny piece of copper wire that I dipped in water and put >> between the electrodes. The amount of water is minuscule (the amount that >> managed to adhere to the metal). You don't get that without the water. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> was that the spark with or without fuel (water pellets)? >>> >>> >>> Jojo >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Jack Cole <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:15 AM >>> *Subject:* [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt >>> >>> Hi Folks, >>> I was excited to receive my spot welder today. After ensuring it was in >>> working order, I decided to get right to it and see if I could get anything >>> like what BLP showed. Lo and behold I got something on the first try. >>> I remembered Mills talking about all the different possibilities for >>> types of conductors that they might use in the commercial device, and >>> copper was one of them. I cut a very small piece of copper wire, dipped it >>> in water, placed it on the electrodes, hit the switch, and pop with some >>> bright light! >>> Here's a link to the vid. Sorry for the bad camera work. >>> Let me know what you think. I'll do another vid soon in complete >>> darkness. >>> http://youtu.be/d6XYqEhwZgA >>> Jack >>> >>> >> >
