*This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely
well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had
hoped for.*

Agreed. I don't think any of us should be pinning all our hopes on this
overturning establishment beliefs, but I think it's a rather
large/important piece of the puzzle, no?

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Although LENR supporters will be impressed at first glance, the biggest
> problems – already being mentioned - and they could be fatal to wider
> acceptance, are that Levi remains the lead author and the lack of reliable
> calorimetry, and the strange isotope shifts. Look at these ! Bizarre and
> telling (to the extent they can be believed) !
>
>
>
> Appendix 3, Table 1  seems to propose – on first glance - that the gain is
> coming from Ni58 being converted to Ni62 by stripping four neutrons from 4
> atoms of Li7 to convert it to Li6. Wow but there is no gamma radiation or
> remnant emission from the ash. That M.O. is the first time this has come up
> but of course – lithium has been a known reactant since the start/.
>
>
>
> Is there a better explanation?
>
>
>
> I will have to admit to being both impressed with the detail and the
> equipment used, but mildly disappointed on first read – not so much that I
> do not believe this, but knowing how it will be received in a wider
> audience.
>
>
>
> This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely
> well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had
> hoped for. However, it could mature to that level if this lithium transfer
> of neutrons can be independently established.
>
>
>
> And this could actually happen quickly. There has been interest in
> lithium, going back decades - in being among the few elements which can
> densify other elements, in the sense of being able to be completely
> absorbed into the electron shell instead of being covalently bound. I know
> of a Lab which has been looking into this lithium phenomenon for many years
> – off-and-on. It is possible that a truly independent confirmation of a
> lithium neutron transfer has been seen with another host, one which could
> lead to this result – and it will carry the day - but that could take a few
> weeks.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved.
>
>
>
> *From:* Foks0904
>
>
>
> Also wasn't this supposed to have been carried out by others beside Levi,
> Essen, and company? I don't see any new names here. Not that it matters to
> me, but won't we just hear the same bullshit objections that it's a "inside
> job"?
>
>
>
> It's here! And it's positive! I suppose not too shocking to any of us
> here. COP looks very healthy and somewhere in between French's magic
> numbers and Jones'/Brian Ahern's speculations. Also looks like the ash
> changed significantly indicating some kind of novel nuclear reaction, as
> indicated by Miles, McKubre, and many others from past PdD work. But I
> haven't looked it over thoroughly enough yet. Fun days ahead folks!
>
>
>
> Craig Haynie wrote:
>
> A very positive test.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On 10/08/2014 08:24 AM, Ron Kita wrote:
>
> Greetings Vortex-L,
>
> Just saw this....have not evaluated it:
> http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/
>
> Ad Astra,
> Ron Kita, Chiralex
> Doylestown PA
>
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