*This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had hoped for.*
Agreed. I don't think any of us should be pinning all our hopes on this overturning establishment beliefs, but I think it's a rather large/important piece of the puzzle, no? On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Although LENR supporters will be impressed at first glance, the biggest > problems – already being mentioned - and they could be fatal to wider > acceptance, are that Levi remains the lead author and the lack of reliable > calorimetry, and the strange isotope shifts. Look at these ! Bizarre and > telling (to the extent they can be believed) ! > > > > Appendix 3, Table 1 seems to propose – on first glance - that the gain is > coming from Ni58 being converted to Ni62 by stripping four neutrons from 4 > atoms of Li7 to convert it to Li6. Wow but there is no gamma radiation or > remnant emission from the ash. That M.O. is the first time this has come up > but of course – lithium has been a known reactant since the start/. > > > > Is there a better explanation? > > > > I will have to admit to being both impressed with the detail and the > equipment used, but mildly disappointed on first read – not so much that I > do not believe this, but knowing how it will be received in a wider > audience. > > > > This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely > well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had > hoped for. However, it could mature to that level if this lithium transfer > of neutrons can be independently established. > > > > And this could actually happen quickly. There has been interest in > lithium, going back decades - in being among the few elements which can > densify other elements, in the sense of being able to be completely > absorbed into the electron shell instead of being covalently bound. I know > of a Lab which has been looking into this lithium phenomenon for many years > – off-and-on. It is possible that a truly independent confirmation of a > lithium neutron transfer has been seen with another host, one which could > lead to this result – and it will carry the day - but that could take a few > weeks. > > > > Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved. > > > > *From:* Foks0904 > > > > Also wasn't this supposed to have been carried out by others beside Levi, > Essen, and company? I don't see any new names here. Not that it matters to > me, but won't we just hear the same bullshit objections that it's a "inside > job"? > > > > It's here! And it's positive! I suppose not too shocking to any of us > here. COP looks very healthy and somewhere in between French's magic > numbers and Jones'/Brian Ahern's speculations. Also looks like the ash > changed significantly indicating some kind of novel nuclear reaction, as > indicated by Miles, McKubre, and many others from past PdD work. But I > haven't looked it over thoroughly enough yet. Fun days ahead folks! > > > > Craig Haynie wrote: > > A very positive test. > > Craig > > > > On 10/08/2014 08:24 AM, Ron Kita wrote: > > Greetings Vortex-L, > > Just saw this....have not evaluated it: > http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/ > > Ad Astra, > Ron Kita, Chiralex > Doylestown PA > > > > > > >

