My opinion is that it will matter to the people who can do something with
the information.  It will matter to people with money to fund research and
companies who don't live in ivory towers.  It will matter to potential
industrial customers of IH.

In the end, I think Rossi will be proven correct with his statement of "In
Mercato Veritas" -- "In the market is truth."

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:

> *This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely
> well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had
> hoped for.*
>
> Agreed. I don't think any of us should be pinning all our hopes on this
> overturning establishment beliefs, but I think it's a rather
> large/important piece of the puzzle, no?
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Although LENR supporters will be impressed at first glance, the biggest
>> problems – already being mentioned - and they could be fatal to wider
>> acceptance, are that Levi remains the lead author and the lack of reliable
>> calorimetry, and the strange isotope shifts. Look at these ! Bizarre and
>> telling (to the extent they can be believed) !
>>
>>
>>
>> Appendix 3, Table 1  seems to propose – on first glance - that the gain
>> is coming from Ni58 being converted to Ni62 by stripping four neutrons from
>> 4 atoms of Li7 to convert it to Li6. Wow but there is no gamma radiation or
>> remnant emission from the ash. That M.O. is the first time this has come up
>> but of course – lithium has been a known reactant since the start/.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a better explanation?
>>
>>
>>
>> I will have to admit to being both impressed with the detail and the
>> equipment used, but mildly disappointed on first read – not so much that I
>> do not believe this, but knowing how it will be received in a wider
>> audience.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely
>> well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had
>> hoped for. However, it could mature to that level if this lithium transfer
>> of neutrons can be independently established.
>>
>>
>>
>> And this could actually happen quickly. There has been interest in
>> lithium, going back decades - in being among the few elements which can
>> densify other elements, in the sense of being able to be completely
>> absorbed into the electron shell instead of being covalently bound. I know
>> of a Lab which has been looking into this lithium phenomenon for many years
>> – off-and-on. It is possible that a truly independent confirmation of a
>> lithium neutron transfer has been seen with another host, one which could
>> lead to this result – and it will carry the day - but that could take a few
>> weeks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Foks0904
>>
>>
>>
>> Also wasn't this supposed to have been carried out by others beside Levi,
>> Essen, and company? I don't see any new names here. Not that it matters to
>> me, but won't we just hear the same bullshit objections that it's a "inside
>> job"?
>>
>>
>>
>> It's here! And it's positive! I suppose not too shocking to any of us
>> here. COP looks very healthy and somewhere in between French's magic
>> numbers and Jones'/Brian Ahern's speculations. Also looks like the ash
>> changed significantly indicating some kind of novel nuclear reaction, as
>> indicated by Miles, McKubre, and many others from past PdD work. But I
>> haven't looked it over thoroughly enough yet. Fun days ahead folks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig Haynie wrote:
>>
>> A very positive test.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/08/2014 08:24 AM, Ron Kita wrote:
>>
>> Greetings Vortex-L,
>>
>> Just saw this....have not evaluated it:
>> http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/
>>
>> Ad Astra,
>> Ron Kita, Chiralex
>> Doylestown PA
>>
>>
>>
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