indeed. to be honest AFAIK they don't need that report to know it. however it can help them not to be ridiculed and fired.
2014-10-08 16:40 GMT+02:00 Jack Cole <[email protected]>: > My opinion is that it will matter to the people who can do something with > the information. It will matter to people with money to fund research and > companies who don't live in ivory towers. It will matter to potential > industrial customers of IH. > > In the end, I think Rossi will be proven correct with his statement of "In > Mercato Veritas" -- "In the market is truth." > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely >> well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had >> hoped for.* >> >> Agreed. I don't think any of us should be pinning all our hopes on this >> overturning establishment beliefs, but I think it's a rather >> large/important piece of the puzzle, no? >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Although LENR supporters will be impressed at first glance, the >>> biggest problems – already being mentioned - and they could be fatal to >>> wider acceptance, are that Levi remains the lead author and the lack of >>> reliable calorimetry, and the strange isotope shifts. Look at these ! >>> Bizarre and telling (to the extent they can be believed) ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Appendix 3, Table 1 seems to propose – on first glance - that the gain >>> is coming from Ni58 being converted to Ni62 by stripping four neutrons from >>> 4 atoms of Li7 to convert it to Li6. Wow but there is no gamma radiation or >>> remnant emission from the ash. That M.O. is the first time this has come up >>> but of course – lithium has been a known reactant since the start/. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there a better explanation? >>> >>> >>> >>> I will have to admit to being both impressed with the detail and the >>> equipment used, but mildly disappointed on first read – not so much that I >>> do not believe this, but knowing how it will be received in a wider >>> audience. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is probably not going to be the instant bombshell, or extremely >>> well-prepared announcement from truly independent scientists that we had >>> hoped for. However, it could mature to that level if this lithium transfer >>> of neutrons can be independently established. >>> >>> >>> >>> And this could actually happen quickly. There has been interest in >>> lithium, going back decades - in being among the few elements which can >>> densify other elements, in the sense of being able to be completely >>> absorbed into the electron shell instead of being covalently bound. I know >>> of a Lab which has been looking into this lithium phenomenon for many years >>> – off-and-on. It is possible that a truly independent confirmation of a >>> lithium neutron transfer has been seen with another host, one which could >>> lead to this result – and it will carry the day - but that could take a few >>> weeks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately there are some nuclear proliferation issues involved. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Foks0904 >>> >>> >>> >>> Also wasn't this supposed to have been carried out by others beside >>> Levi, Essen, and company? I don't see any new names here. Not that it >>> matters to me, but won't we just hear the same bullshit objections that >>> it's a "inside job"? >>> >>> >>> >>> It's here! And it's positive! I suppose not too shocking to any of us >>> here. COP looks very healthy and somewhere in between French's magic >>> numbers and Jones'/Brian Ahern's speculations. Also looks like the ash >>> changed significantly indicating some kind of novel nuclear reaction, as >>> indicated by Miles, McKubre, and many others from past PdD work. But I >>> haven't looked it over thoroughly enough yet. Fun days ahead folks! >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig Haynie wrote: >>> >>> A very positive test. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/08/2014 08:24 AM, Ron Kita wrote: >>> >>> Greetings Vortex-L, >>> >>> Just saw this....have not evaluated it: >>> http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/08/e-cat-report-leaked/ >>> >>> Ad Astra, >>> Ron Kita, Chiralex >>> Doylestown PA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
