Robert, I am not convinced the wires are "wound tightly around an inner core". I think they may be imbedded within the alumina shell and work primarily thru induction and not conduction. Alumina is a good insulator and may protect them (somewhat) from the hi temp core.
The alumina shell may have been originally cast around a pipe/tube that was later removed. And don't ask me to prove that. Stewart On Monday, October 13, 2014, Robert Lynn <[email protected]> wrote: > It seems clear that the thermography is way off - because the built in > inconel heater wires would fail at <1350°C. (The peak temp from > thermography is 1412°C). And the wires would necessarily be much hotter > than the external surface of the reactor - if they are wound tightly around > an inner core with little or no conductive contact with outer shell then > that outer shell will only be around 1000°C and there will have been little > or no LENR output. > > Until or unless that can be explained satisfactorily the rest of the test > results are nothing but castles in the air. > > On 14 October 2014 09:06, Jed Rothwell <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Jones Beene <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >> >>> Ø The previous message I quoted from you was definitely an accusation >>> of fraud in the calorimetry: "No one would ever use an IR camera in this >>> situation unless they have the intent to deceive." >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course I meant it - in the context that they received intense >>> criticism for doing this in the previous report, and yet they went ahead >>> and did it anyway without any additional concern for the accuracy – as was >>> clearly the problem before. >>> >>> >>> >>> Callous disregard for the truth is tantamount to intent. >>> >> >> Oh, okay. Now you are back to saying the calorimetry was callous >> disregard for the truth tantamount to fraud. I thought you agreed with >> Brian Ahern and his expert friend. Okay, that was 6 hours ago and you have >> flip-flopped again. >> >> >> >>> As for libel, I would love to enter “discovery” with this Levi and his >>> group. Bring it on. >>> >> >> I meant that libel here is bad form. A million people on the Internet >> attack Rossi and Levi with unfounded BS. But we are not supposed to do that >> here. Especially not when you have zero evidence he has done anything >> wrong, and no reason to think he would do anything wrong -- other than your >> own private scientific theory that his results are impossible. >> >> I have been hearing people say "this is impossible so it must be fraud" >> since 1989. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Ø By the way, as far as I know Rossi had no say in design of this >>> experiment. The decision to "use an IR camera in the situation" was made by >>> Levi et al. >>> >>> >>> >>> And do you know that Levi has received no financial remuneration or >>> promise of future funding from this work ? It would be a huge surprise if >>> he had not. >>> >> >> Ah, so he is on the take. And when Levi destroys his own reputation by >> putting in fake ash, or using an IR camera knowing it is the wrong choice, >> this will help Rossi and Levi . . . how again? Never mind. I am sure you >> have an elaborate conspiracy theory. We don't need the details. Anyway, in >> 6 hours you will have a different theory. >> >> >> >>> In short - all you really know is that you want this grossly deficient >>> paper to transform into rock-solid proof of LENR, whether it is compromised >>> or not… >>> >>> >>> >>> This isotope analysis stinks, and if it goes down, so can the rest of it. >>> >> >> Ah, so the calorimetry is fraud -- again -- because you are convinced the >> mass spectrometry is. Or no, it isn't fraud, but the "rest of it" um . . . >> "can go down." Because if Rossi committed fraud with fake ashes that means >> we cannot trust the calorimetry performed by other people when Rossi was >> absent. Because . . . because . . . we can't! We just can't. Rossi has >> magical ESP and he can change IR camera readings in the dead of night from >> another continent. >> >> - Jed >> >> >
