The total instantaneous power into the system can be calculated by taking the 
instantaneous source voltage and multiplying it by the instantaneous source 
current.  It does not matter whether you want to call it AC or DC since this is 
the total that is being delivered.  There is no more, regardless of how the 
load changes resistance.

If you then integrate the instantaneous power over the time period of interest, 
you get the total energy delivered by that source.  The requirement is that you 
must accurately measure the voltage and current waveforms during the period of 
interest.

If someone can show that the measuring system used by McKubre was not capable 
of following the waveforms then they might have a valid point.  I suspect the 
Mike knew how to make these measurements in an accurate manner.  The skeptics 
need to demonstrate otherwise.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>
To: Vortex List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Oct 24, 2014 10:47 am
Subject: [Vo]:questions on McKubre cells and AC component



Barry Kort on Dr bob blog reported challenging critiques of McKubre experiments



http://www.drboblog.com/cbs-60-minutes-on-cold-fusion/#comment-37932



maybe some already have the debunking, the correction... i imagien it is 
addressed:







About a year after CBS 60 Minutes aired their episode on Cold Fusion, I 
followed up with Rob Duncan to explore Richard Garwin’s thesis that McKubre was 
measuring the input electric power incorrectly.
It turns out that McKubre was reckoning only the DC power going into his cells, 
and assuming (for arcane technical reasons) there could not be any AC power 
going in, and therefore he didn’t need to measure or include any AC power term 
in his energy budget model.
Together with several other people, I helped work out a model for the omitted 
AC power term in McKubre’s experimental design. Our model showed that there was 
measurable and significant AC power, arising from the fluctuations in ohmic 
resistance as bubbles formed and sloughed off the surface of the palladium 
electrodes. Our model jibed with both the qualitative and quantitative evidence 
from McKubre’s reports:
1) McKubre (and others) noted that the excess heat only appeared after the 
palladium lattice was fully loaded. And that’s precisely when the Faradaic 
current no longer charges up the lattice, but begins producing gas bubbles on 
the surfaces of the electrodes.
2) The excess heat in McKubre’s cells was only apparent, significant, and 
sizable when the Faradaic drive current was elevated to dramatically high 
levels, thereby increasing the rate at which bubbles were forming and sloughing 
off the electrodes.
3) The effect was enhanced if the surface of the electrodes was rough rather 
than polished smooth, so that larger bubbles could form and cling to the rough 
surface before sloughing off, thereby alternately occluding and exposing 
somewhat larger fractions of surface area for each bubble.
The time-varying resistance arising from the bubbles forming and sloughing off 
the surface of the electrodes — after the cell was fully loaded, enhanced by 
elevated Faradaic drive currents and further enhanced by a rough electrode 
surface — produced measurable and significant AC noise power into the energy 
budget model that went as the square of the magnitude of the fluctuations in 
the cell resistance.
To a first approximation, a 17% fluctuation in resistance would nominally 
produce a 3% increase in power, over and above the baseline DC power term. 
Garwin and Lewis had found that McKubre’s cells were producing about 3% more 
heat than could be accounted for with his energy measurements, where McKubre 
was reckoning only the DC power going into his cells, and (incorrectly) 
assuming there was no AC power that needed to be measured or included in his 
energy budget model.
I suggest slapping an audio VU meter across McKubre’s cell to measure the AC 
burst noise from the fluctuating resistance. Alternatively use one of McKubre’s 
constant current power supplies to drive an old style desk telephone with a 
carbon button microphone. I predict the handset will still function: if you 
blow into the mouthpiece, you’ll hear it in the earpiece, thereby proving the 
reality of an AC audio signal riding on top of the DC current.


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