Jere, a buddy of mine for years has tied his adult damsel bodies in the
manner you described for the 'extended body'.

Richard

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From: Jere Crosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, January 06, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: tying


>Wow, did the guys at "Jimmy's Fly shop get me pumped up to get out and fish
>today!  Some of these guys ice fish to stay active in the winter time.
They
>catch some huge trout through the ice.  The commercial tier that I just
>finished watching ties a mean looking chartruese "jig".  It has heavy,
>dumbell eyes on a shorter shank #10 and a flashabou wing.  They jig it up
>and down and you can see the jig deep down below the hole.  It helps to
like
>to drink beer a lot.  Tom Banyas was the guy I watched tie.  He was from
>Pocatello, Idaho.  An extended body using only Zelon was one of his
patterns
>and I will be tying many of them.  He twists the zellon tight, presses the
>sissors against the twisted zellon where he wants the extended body to end
>and it twists up against the tail of the hook.  He then wraps back on it
>good so that it doesn't untwist, wraps the abdomen with the rest of the
>zellon, loops the zellon into a post and wraps the rest to the eye, adds a
>hackle and parachute ties it and finishes off.  It was fast to tie and
>fishes well as an adult damsel and larger drake patterns, (ie) green, brown
>and grey drakes.  You just change the color concept.  He then tied a damsel
>nymph using just a bunch of marabou.  It formed the tail with the tips,
>abdomen, stop 1/3 back from the eye, move the thread forward with small
>amount of dubbing,(I think) to behind the eye, pull the marabou over the
top
>for a wing case and then he split the remaining barbules out to the side
for
>action legs.  On some patterns he adds small eyes as a last step.  The last
>fly was a hopper/ large stone tied the same way only changing the color.
>Tail fibers, an orange yarn strand and a hackle at the back.  Wrap the
>abdomen 2/3, then hackle the abdomen, then wrap to the eye and add a 3/8
>wide inch of closed air cell foam like on the Chernobyl Ants.  Tie it down
>tight behind the eye and back to the abdomen tight.  Then he adds an
>underwing of pearlescent flash.  The wing is deer or elk hair flared over
>the black foam that is bound down.  Then rubber legs on each side and a
>hackle tied in between the rubber legs.  He then trims the rectangular
piece
>of foam that is over the eye and behind the hook bend by slant cutting both
>sides of the head and tail sections.  He gave me one of each as a pattern
>and I've been home tying them.  These are all awesome patterns and the
>hopper/stone tied in appropriate color schemes will work super, I'm sure.
>If you didn't follow my directions and want further info you can Email me
at
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>



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