I'm practicing it.  The tier at the shop made it look so easy!  I'm
struggling a bit.  Wasn't focused enough.  Thinking about questions to ask
him, I guess.  Same problem I had in school!   But I'll get it.  He uses the
same procedure for his larger drake patterns also.  One of his keys to
success with this parachute style is the way it sits in the water (ie) low.
His big stone and hopper pattern was the same theme...sit low in the water.
This guy loves to "gulper" fish and considers it as good of sport as we
have.  He asked me to give him a call this Spring and he'd take me gulper
fishing on one of the lakes.  He bought a 10 ft 6wt. to reach way out to the
"gulpers" because of their weariness.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Embry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: tying


> Jere, a buddy of mine for years has tied his adult damsel bodies in the
> manner you described for the 'extended body'.
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jere Crosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, January 06, 2001 4:14 PM
> Subject: tying
>
>
> >Wow, did the guys at "Jimmy's Fly shop get me pumped up to get out and
fish
> >today!  Some of these guys ice fish to stay active in the winter time.
> They
> >catch some huge trout through the ice.  The commercial tier that I just
> >finished watching ties a mean looking chartruese "jig".  It has heavy,
> >dumbell eyes on a shorter shank #10 and a flashabou wing.  They jig it up
> >and down and you can see the jig deep down below the hole.  It helps to
> like
> >to drink beer a lot.  Tom Banyas was the guy I watched tie.  He was from
> >Pocatello, Idaho.  An extended body using only Zelon was one of his
> patterns
> >and I will be tying many of them.  He twists the zellon tight, presses
the
> >sissors against the twisted zellon where he wants the extended body to
end
> >and it twists up against the tail of the hook.  He then wraps back on it
> >good so that it doesn't untwist, wraps the abdomen with the rest of the
> >zellon, loops the zellon into a post and wraps the rest to the eye, adds
a
> >hackle and parachute ties it and finishes off.  It was fast to tie and
> >fishes well as an adult damsel and larger drake patterns, (ie) green,
brown
> >and grey drakes.  You just change the color concept.  He then tied a
damsel
> >nymph using just a bunch of marabou.  It formed the tail with the tips,
> >abdomen, stop 1/3 back from the eye, move the thread forward with small
> >amount of dubbing,(I think) to behind the eye, pull the marabou over the
> top
> >for a wing case and then he split the remaining barbules out to the side
> for
> >action legs.  On some patterns he adds small eyes as a last step.  The
last
> >fly was a hopper/ large stone tied the same way only changing the color.
> >Tail fibers, an orange yarn strand and a hackle at the back.  Wrap the
> >abdomen 2/3, then hackle the abdomen, then wrap to the eye and add a 3/8
> >wide inch of closed air cell foam like on the Chernobyl Ants.  Tie it
down
> >tight behind the eye and back to the abdomen tight.  Then he adds an
> >underwing of pearlescent flash.  The wing is deer or elk hair flared over
> >the black foam that is bound down.  Then rubber legs on each side and a
> >hackle tied in between the rubber legs.  He then trims the rectangular
> piece
> >of foam that is over the eye and behind the hook bend by slant cutting
both
> >sides of the head and tail sections.  He gave me one of each as a pattern
> >and I've been home tying them.  These are all awesome patterns and the
> >hopper/stone tied in appropriate color schemes will work super, I'm sure.
> >If you didn't follow my directions and want further info you can Email me
> at
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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