I have found the boats are comparable to others out there besides depending on style and shape they all react differently in the water of course I am referring mainly to moving water like a river. I have used some of the other products and friends who own and use other products and have tried Xstream see not much of a difference except in price. In still water unless you want to be the best at doing donuts or the fastest across the lake I do not see what difference style or price makes. The only thing that counts then is quality of workmanship and warranty which xtstream I believe offers a life time warranty and your personal style preference.

There are two main styles used in rivers the banana and the cigar ( I think is what it is called) one is very quick & maneuverable but not the best at tracking ands the other is better at tracking but not quick & maneuverable. Most things come down to what a person is content with and not necessarily what is the best (excluding price). If price is what you regard as a measuring stick for quality that just fine but as my wallet doesn't allow that, I have to look at everything everything.

Besides I think you may have been smoking something funny because I do not promote nor have I ever owned a heritage rod. Why do you ask? I suppose if it cost less than a sage it is low end to you L-O-L but that is not true besides I suspect your one of those that uses a heritage when no one you know is around but won't admit to it ;-)).

Anyway hopefully no one gets angry at this email and I was only offering something else to look at besides what is shown at the shows.

Thanks for the laugh., Ray


At 12:01 PM 2/26/03 -0800, you wrote:
Ray, what pontoon boats have you used?  The X-Stream products that I have
seen appear to be a good value, and their products are generally know by
folks I know, and I actually know a couple of guys who have them, as a good
value (i.e. that means they are a functional at a low end of the market
price), but in absolutely no way would the product qualify as one of the
best products out there.

There is a HUGE difference between the X-Stream craft and the Steelheader
and Cardiac Canyon boats.  That's kind of like saying, price aside, an Okuma
Sierra is on par with a Ross Gunnison.

Say, aren't you the person who also promotes those Heritage rods?


----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Cardiac Canyon Pontoon Boat


> You should look at a pontoon boat that is made locally owmed comapny and is > as good or better than any thing on the market. Unfortunately he was not in > the flyfishing show. The company is Xstream Gear andd is located near the > south end of Boeing field in Seattle has been making outdoor gear and > pontoon boats for more than 25 years. Xstream Gear is their brand name and > they do a ton of private label for a lot of the big northamerican companies > so you may have already used his products but never knew it. His prices are > very competitive and his pontoon boats are the best I have ever seen or > used. There are other members of this forum that have used his a lot of > their products also. A lot of the fishing clubs around Puget Sound will > also vouch for the quality of Xstream Gears products. > > He has a small display in the Tacoma boat show this week I do not know how > many of the pontoon boats are there. So before you buy anything I suggest > you look at his too. his office number is (206) 762 6170 and tell him Ray > sent you maybe it will help in negotiating a blower price [ L-O-L ;-)) ] > on second thought may you shouldn't because he may just raise the price if > he hears my name L-O-L > > Like I said earlier he is at the Tacoma boat show and his shop is just > south of Boeing field but there is no one there right now that can show or > sell the pontoon boat because of the show. > > Ray > > > At 07:46 PM 2/25/03 -0800, you wrote: > >I gave one of these boats a good look-over at the fly fishing show on > >Saturday. They seemed like a pretty good boat. > > > >Can anyone who owns one give any pro/con feedback on the boat or > >accessories? > > > >I am looking for a pontoon boat that will be used 90% on the rivers and > >maybe 10% on lakes. I have also looked at a Steelheader boat. The front deck > >option looks interesting. > > > >Anyone using one of these? If you have the front deck, do you like it or > >not? > > > >I am hoping for owner feedback. Someone who has had a long term love/hate > >relationship with their boats. I would appreciate any feedback. > > > >Andy > >



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