Well said. What my posts have tried to do is to prevent this from turning into becoming another forum where much flame throwing, name calling, and personal type attacks become the main focus. Democrats nor Republicans, nor any other party have all the answers. Each has created it's own set of frustrations in each and every one's lives. What to one party is one thing, is touted by the other as being the best thing since popped corn. Let's face it, the dams are there, and both good and bad has come from them. If you have not already subscribed, the monthly Columbia Basin Bulletin newsletter via email which is free has some pretty interesting reading regarding the legal battles fought on this issue, as well as the reasoning behind the battles. I don't have the link handy, but a search will get you the link. Lots of good stuff there on this and many other things affecting fishing.

Roger

Roger


----- Original Message ----- From: "David Weitl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Dams and well Clinton did it first.



While I agree with many of the posts on this subject, the discussions of
this nature seem to degrade into generalizations akin to pointing
fingers at one political party, which can be divisive.

Based on my experience, it appears to be difficult for members of this
list, especially as it has grown to its current size, to resist throwing
stones at one political philosophy or the other (right vs. left) instead
of focusing on the issue itself, like Leland suggested.

For myself, I would rather keep our debate on this list dominated more
by surface flies (good guys) vs. subsurface (the dark side). ;=D

- Dave

David Weitl
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Poulsbo, WA  98370
(360) 779-3802
(360) 779-1467 fax
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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Lufkin Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Dams and well Clinton did it first.

Like it or not, the demise of anadramous fishing in our rivers is a
direct result of a series of value decisions made on the local and
national political stage. There's nothing in this forum's charter
that precludes discussions about how political decisions impact
fishing. If list members don't wish to participate in such
discussions, that's their choice.

IMHO, it's disingenuous to refuse to tolerate discussion about the
political impacts on fishing while while at the same time wringing
our hands about the decline of our fisheries.

As Tip O'Neill once opined "All politics is local", local activism
and coalition-building is a first step to meaningful political
opposition. Neither can take place without discussion.

K




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