We here are running 10.4.11, so if the 1670 gets up it should be a conflict with 10.5?

Whew; I got dizzy scrolling through all those messages!

Kev





YES but if it's a 10.5.x issue then you'd think in theory it should do the
same thing. To double check it you'd need to run it on two different "other"
machines, one running 10.5.x and one running say 10.4.x. If it doesn't work
on all of them, then you'd assume it should be the hardware. If it doesn't
work on both 10.5.x machines but does work on 10.4.x machines you'd assume
it's the software.
That would be the true test as I see it.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 21/8/09 1:34 PM, "Robert Howells" <[email protected]> wrote:



 On 21/08/2009, at 1:20 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


 Hi Bob

 Ok, sorry should have worded it as...
 "So it's *probably* not a hardware fault with your scanner."

 Just seems to much of a coincidence that two people with exactly the
 same
 model of scanner, on the same OS having the scanner which was
 working before
 just stop at the same time.

 YES !    But that said

 there has been a lot of work done with the software by some
 knowledgeable types
 without success .

 The test at Kevin's tomorrow should narrow the field .

 With hardware it's not unusual for a particular model to experience
 similar faults
 located in similar locations on moving parts ...   this could be one
 of them .

 Cheers

 Bob





 But hey,..it could be a hardware fault too, in which case,
 weird,...that it
 happens all at the same time. ;)
 By all means I'm happy to be proven wrong, I was just offering extra
 info to
 let Ian know that I had someone with the exact same problem, doing
 exactly
 the same thing, under the same OS when it was working before
 "something"
 changed.


 Kind Regards
 Daniel


 On 21/8/09 1:10 PM, "Robert Howells" <[email protected]> wrote:


 Daniel ... see below


 On 21/08/2009, at 12:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


 Hi Ian

 Just to add to this for your interest.
 I was out doing another job for a client today, which got fixed very
 quickly, so they asked me to look at their scanner which had stopped
 working.
 Lo and behold, it was an Epson Perfection 1670.
 Running a new iMac with 10.5.6. Would come up with a message that it
 cannot
 recognise the document after the preview scan and just show the
 preview as
 white with nothing on it.
 Trashed the preferences, restarted.
 Updated to 10.5.8.
 Repaired permissions.
 Uninstalled and reinstalled from a downloaded driver.
 Removed and checked TWAIN drivers.
 Checked Image capture.
 Still the same, no joy.

 So it's not a hardware fault with your scanner,

 What makes you so sure of that ... ?

 what if the sensor has say a broken wire and simply cannot send the
 signal
 or sends only a very low level signal to the software ?


 Bob






 so you can rule out taking
 it to get looked at ;o) (And thanks for the heads up on ServiceWest,
 >>>> hadn't
 realised that.)

 A lot of googling didn't really turn up anything useful at all.
 Unfortunately the client had to go out so we ran out of time to keep
 looking
 at it.

 I just had an idea driving back, which you may want to try.
 From the downloaded update, uninstall the drivers. (When you open up
 the
 update it will be set to custom install, but if you click that (in
 the top
 left hand corner) you can choose Uninstall.
 So ran that and uninstall their drivers.
 The restart and just try scanning without installing anything.
 (I'm just wondering if there is a "default" TWAIN driver installed
 which is
 conflicting with the Epson one.)
 If doesn't work at all, I'd then try installing it straight from the
 >>>> CD that
 came with the Scanner, rather then the update. Just to see if it
 makes a
 difference.

 See how you go with that. Will be interested to hear back.


 Just thought I'd let you know.

 Kind Regards
 Daniel




 On 21/8/09 11:31 AM, "Ian Reid" <[email protected]> wrote:



 On 21 Aug 2009, at 9:00 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote:


 I run an Epson Perfection 1640SU on an Intel iMac no probs.

 Before you go to a repairer you could bring it by our place and see
 if
 it runs on one of our machines.
 We live in Bibra Lake.

 regards

 Kev

 Hi Kevin.

 I accept. Would you be at home tomorrow morning? What is your
 address.

 Margaret will jump at this as an excuse to go on further to the
 Mundijong Spud Shed for some cheap vegies.

 Regards

 Ian




 On 20 Aug 2009, at 6:22 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


 Hi Ian

 I'd be hesitant to suggest taking it to a repairer without giving
 them a
 call first. Most places would charge you before looking at it, as
 they have
 a "standard" quoting fee these days, and some of them can be at
 least
 $75-$100 just to look at it.
 If you then consider that you can get a new scanner for around
 $150,
 it's
 sometimes not worth it.
 Not saying that's always the case, just something to consider.

 ServiceWest are a repairer for anything Epson, so may pay to give
 them a
 call tomorrow and see what they say - 9474 4990.

 Hope that helps a bit.

 Kind Regards
 Daniel

 Hi Daniel

 ServiceWest gave up repairing Epson some time ago. PrintCom, in Mt
 Lawley  (9371 8600) do it now. They charge $80, plus any
 replacement
 parts, to look and repair.

 Ian



 On 20/8/09 6:13 PM, "Ian Reid" <[email protected]> wrote:



 On 20 Aug 2009, at 5:15 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


 Hi Ian

 One thing also to note which happens with some scanners and
 software, is
 that when the TWAIN (scanner driver) is in use with one
 Application
 the
 other Application doesn't always get control of it.
 For example, if you've just tried to use it with Epson Scan and
 found it
 didn't work then opened Image Capture straight away it
 "generally"
 won't
 always work. If you restart the computer and open Image Capture
 first
 (and
 not open Epson Scan), and then see if it works from there.
 That way, if it doesn't work with the Epson software, then you've
 got
 a fall
 back at least.
 I'd be surprised if it doesn't work full stop though, as I've got
 clients
 who have similar models.

 Hope that helps.

 Kind Regards
 Daniel


 That is interesting Daniel. I did try to use Image Capture
 >>>>>>> immediately
 after failing with Epson Scan.

 However, I have downloaded and installed Vuescan and still obtain
 pristinely blank scans. It looks like I trot along to a repairer
 with
 the 1670 under my arm.

 I will let you all know the result.

 Ian Reid


 On 20/8/09 5:09 PM, "Ian Reid" <[email protected]> wrote:



 On 20 Aug 2009, at 3:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


 Hello Ian,

 Did you have this version Scanner Driver 2.77A installed, says
 OS X
 10.5.x?

 Thanks Ronni

 I had Version 273. So I downloaded V.277a, opened the dmg and
 clicked
 on the Installer, assuming that it would uninstall V.273
 >>>>>>>> first.  I
 didn't, so I trashed the V.273 application, emptied the Trash
 and
 clicked on the Installer once again. No luck! V.273 returned to
 Applications folder. Running a scan still produces a blank
 sheet.
 The
 only other mention of 'scanning' that I can find is the
 Reference
 Guide in the Documents folder.

 Ian Reid




<http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?oid=23762&prodo
 id
 =3

 5
 836299&infoType=Downloads&platform=Macintosh


 Scanner Driver and EPSON Scan Utility v2.77A
 Intel-based Macs with OS X (v10.4.4 - v10.5.x), PowerPC Macs
 with
 OS X
 (v10.2.8 - v10.5.x)
 epson12700.dmg - 6.2MB - posted on 07/29/08


 This file contains the EPSON Scan Utility and Scanner Driver
 (TWAIN)
 v2.77A.Installation instructions (some of the following steps
 may
 not
 be necessary):
 * Download the file.
 * Double-click the downloaded file to create a disk image on
 your
 desktop.
 * Open the disk image.
 * Double-click the installer icon to begin the installation.

 Cheers,
 Ronni


 On 20/08/2009, at 3:12 PM, Michael Waldie wrote:


 On 20/08/2009, at 2:38 PM, Ian Reid wrote:


 Good afternoon all

 I have just discovered from Epson Support that the reason why
 my
 scanner now goes through all the motions and noises of
 scanning a
 document, but produces only a blank sheet, is because of
 incompatibility with recent versions of Mac OSX. Apparently I
 have
 to work via Image Capture.

 Opening Image Capture doesn't do much and clicking on the
 scanner
 ikon just produces another blank page. Pogue's Missing Manual
 doesn't help.

 Where can I find instructions on how to scan documents with my
 1670
 or do I need a replacement scanner? Your help would be much
 appreciated.

 Ian Reid


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