The nice formatting of the previous was removed at the news group server so I
will repost just the bullet points of the previous email...
* Obtain an external drive with enough space to store the two sparse bundles
you wish to keep.
* Turn off all Time Machine back up from al the computers in your house.
* Move the two good sparse bundles to an external drive for safe keeping.
* Erase the Time Capsule using Airport Utility ( knowledge base article link
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4522?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US )
* At this point try to backup the new install of your 9yo's computer to Time
Capsule. There should be nothing stopping it now.
(post back if it does not work)
* Copy back the other two sparse bundles to Time Capsule
* Check that the existing computers are still associated with their newly
reinstate sparse bundle
(if not post back)
C
On 08/08/2012, at 8:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Pete,
>
> Just to wrap up this thread I'll summarise where we left things. It seems the
> existing Time Capsule sparse bundle associated with you 9yo's MacBook refuses
> to budge. In the end Time Capsule is an independent computer with its own
> permissions and accounts. Apple attempts to keep these permissions
> synchronised but there can be slip-ups.
>
> So failing deleting the old sparse bundle here is a proposed fall back
> position:
> Obtain an external drive with enough space to store the two sparse bundles
> you wish to keep.
> Turn off all Time Machine back up from al the computers in your house.
> Move the two good sparse bundles to an external drive for safe keeping.
> Erase the Time Capsule using Airport Utility
> (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4522?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US )
> At this point try to backup the new install of your 9yo’s computer to Time
> Capsule, there should be nothing stopping it now. (post back if it does not
> work)
> Copy back the other two sparse bundles to Time Capsule
> Check that the existing computers are still associated with their newly
> reinstate sparse bundle (if not post back)
> I know you will be away for a couple of weeks, so let us know how things go
> when you get back.
>
> Regards
> Carlo
>
> ---
> Carlo Margio
> Real World Computing
>
> mob: +61 404 296 965
> [email protected]
> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>
> On 05/08/2012, at 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> It's a pity I can log onto your computer remotely for 1 minute as I am
>> fairly certain I would be able to sort it out. But in a nutshell, your path
>> to the sparse bundle is a little different to what I would expect to see --
>> possibly for historical reasons on your network, or possible you have you
>> Time Capsule configured with an external drive, or maybe another factor.
>>
>> Anyway, if you bear with me and send a couple of emails back, we should be
>> able to find the correct path. Could you post back the output of these two
>> terminal commands...
>>
>> 1) "cd /Volumes"
>> 2) "ls -l"
>>
>> Regards,
>> Carlo
>>
>> ---
>> Carlo Margio
>> Real World Computing
>>
>> mob: 0404 296 965
>> [email protected]
>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>>
>> On 05/08/2012, at 13:39 , Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, Still not getting there with terminal. step 3 - the word "Data" is not
>>> something I see in Finder. After selecting "Joannes Time Capsule" Finder
>>> presents "Time Capsule" and "Maxtor" being the USB connect 1TB drive at the
>>> Time Capsule. I don't see "Data". If I select "Time Capsule", I see the
>>> three sparesebundle files for each of the 3 Macbooks.
>>>
>>> Notwithstanding that I went to Terminal and typed commands per below and I
>>> get "No such file or directory".
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmm
>>>
>>> Pete.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/08/2012, at 12:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a bit of a mess up.
>>>> Yes, Time Capsule does use the MAC Address of the computer not the
>>>> computer name.
>>>>
>>>> To delete the User's User.sparsebundle.
>>>> 1. Turn Off Time Machine in System
>>>> 2. In Finder under Shared select Time Capsule disk
>>>> 3. Then click "Data".
>>>>
>>>> 4.Launch Terminal, then type these commands:
>>>>
>>>> cd /Volumes/Data
>>>> ls
>>>>
>>>> That's a lower-case letter "L" at the beginning of that last command.
>>>> You should see all your "sparsebundle" volumes.
>>>>
>>>> Then type this command (including a trailing space) but do NOT yet press
>>>> "return":
>>>>
>>>> sudo rm -rf
>>>>
>>>> 5. Now open the "Data" volume. Drag the "sparsebundle" file you want to
>>>> delete from the "Data" volume's Finder window to the Terminal window.
>>>>
>>>> This should cause the path and name of the volume you want to delete to be
>>>> copied into the Terminal window.
>>>> 6. Now select the Terminal window.
>>>> Double-check that the correct "sparsebundle" file is in the command, then
>>>> press "return".
>>>>
>>>> You'll be prompted for your administrative password.
>>>>
>>>> As a general rule, if you are manipulating file/folder names with
>>>> "special" characters, the whole file/folder name should be double quoted.
>>>>
>>>> Dragging the file from a Finder window to the Terminal adds double quotes
>>>> as needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>>
>>>> On 05/08/2012, at 12:36 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Carlo, thanks for persevering with me. I did the Disk verify and
>>>>> permissions repair - there was one identified issue to do with a group
>>>>> code being wrong - not sure if that relates to my problem or not. In any
>>>>> case it is now repaired. At this point I have tried with Terminal to
>>>>> delete the User's.sparesbundle from all 3 MB's independently and each of
>>>>> them replies after step 2 below with "-bash: :$ command not found". So I
>>>>> can't delete with terminal at the moment. However, the order of steps is
>>>>> slightly altered when compared with your earlier instructions in that I
>>>>> did the OSX install prior to the disk verify/repair steps. Does this
>>>>> matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Still unable to delete the sparesebundle and also unable to mount the
>>>>> time machine disc image.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you indicated earlier there is an instal process to fix the
>>>>> "bash" issue I am having.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/08/2012, at 12:05 PM, cm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just for reference sake, here is the process you can try to delete the
>>>>>> sparse bundle. Note if you can't do this from your 9yo's computer you
>>>>>> can try it from one of the other computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) In Finder mount the Time Capsule by clicking on it in the Finder
>>>>>> sidebar. Navigate to the Data directory but no need to do anything
>>>>>> further in Finder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) In Terminal now do the following
>>>>>> $ cd /Volumes/Data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) At this point type
>>>>>> $ ls -l
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and you should see User's.sparsebundle or whatever it is called
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Still in terminal type
>>>>>> $ sudo rm -rf <sparse bundle name>
>>>>>> Where <sparse bundle name> is the name from step 3)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/08/2012, at 11:56 , cm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My hosting service seems to be temporarily offline so pardon the
>>>>>>> posting from a older email address.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Things seem to have got away from you a little. You had successfully
>>>>>>> applied the update to 10.5.4. At that point you had a working computer
>>>>>>> with all your data! I personally would not have wiped the data as there
>>>>>>> is little benefit to a clean install if you intend to use data
>>>>>>> migration assistant to bring all the cruft back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To take stock, you now have a working computer albeit with no data an a
>>>>>>> non functioning Time Machine. So to try to get back on track, perhaps
>>>>>>> you could proceed as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Attempt the earlier process where you use Terminal.app to delete the
>>>>>>> unused sparse bundle on your Time Capsule.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) If that works and you get Time Machine functioning, do a Time
>>>>>>> Machine backup just to kick things off, even though none of your
>>>>>>> valuable data will be included in the backup at this point
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Use data migration assistant to bring back your data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Do another Time Machine backup -- this time with you data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let us know what you choose to do and how it goes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Re: Time Machine backup
>>>>>>>> Peter Crisp
>>>>>>>> Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:23:39 -0700
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, just about reached end of the line for options.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I did was load the OSX disc for System update only to 10.5.4 and
>>>>>>>> then test
>>>>>>>> to see if Time Machine could mount the volume- no go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then my objective was to do a clean instal from the 10.5.4 OSX disc,
>>>>>>>> but as it
>>>>>>>> was already the same OSX version, I was not presented with the option
>>>>>>>> to do a
>>>>>>>> clean instal. So I did Software Update to up version to 10.5.8 which
>>>>>>>> it did but
>>>>>>>> took 5 hours through the night.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried the Time Machine process again- no good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, go the full Monty. Clean instal back to 10.5.4. Still no Time
>>>>>>>> Machine image
>>>>>>>> mount. Some observations though which might jog someone's memory. In
>>>>>>>> the Change
>>>>>>>> Disc dialogue box of TM I have 3 items.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Item 1 is an icon of the Time Capsule with a green picture with an
>>>>>>>> analogue
>>>>>>>> clock face.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Item 2 is an icon of the Time Capsule with a blue picture of 3 people
>>>>>>>> holding
>>>>>>>> hands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Item 3 says None but has a red circle with a red diagonal line through
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But item 3 has been there for ages, well before introducing Tim's
>>>>>>>> MacBook to
>>>>>>>> the TC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Item 2 is the one I pick normally on Jo's MacBook and it works fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another observation, when looking at Time Machine window on Tim's
>>>>>>>> MacBook it
>>>>>>>> states name as Name: Time Capsule and Available 525.4GB of 929.5GB. On
>>>>>>>> SWMBOs
>>>>>>>> MacBook, same window says Name: Time Capsule (Joannes-Time-Capsule)
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Available: 564.11GB of 998.06GB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems like there are 2 volumes or images, I really don't know what
>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>> next.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't migrated Tim's data back in yet, to save me wasting time and
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> protect it until its all settled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had read somewhere that Time Capsule uses the MAC address to
>>>>>>>> recognise a
>>>>>>>> machine, in doing a clean instal the MAC address doesn't change (i
>>>>>>>> think) and
>>>>>>>> so it is still attempting to do the same as I was trying 3 days ago.
>>>>>>>> As same
>>>>>>>> MAC address means same machine to the TC. Can I change the MAC
>>>>>>>> address? Is
>>>>>>>> there a plist file somewhere I can blow away to kick start it from
>>>>>>>> scratch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WCE performance was icing on the cake last night but the rowers did a
>>>>>>>> great job!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any tips?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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