Hi Ronni

> Automatic termination is a feature of OS X Lion and OS X Mountain Lion

That's why we love Ronni (and WAMUG).   A reasonable explanation.   The Apple 
Communities gurus (Caroline Samit (?) from memory) still refer people to that 
Apple Support article, and others advise deletion of Safari plists etc.    

I agree on one level that it is not necessary to know if an app is open or not 
, as long as it works when it is clicked.  I'm happy to remain ignorant of the 
Terminal command.

But it is infuriating that some apps stop working when the computer goes to 
sleep (or don't start) because of Apple's stringent iOS-type app power 
management requirements.

Thanks for enhancing my Mac knowledge.

Cheers
Alan


On 03/12/2012, at 10:55 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Alan,
> 
> Explanation why Safari 6 and other apps quit when idle.
> 
> Automatic termination is a feature of OS X Lion and OS X Mountain Lion that 
> comes from the realm of iOS, the idea is that after an app is unused for a 
> period of time and becomes inactive, it will automatically terminate to free 
> up resources for other tasks. With the help of the new auto-savefeature, the 
> user should theoretically never notice any of this going on and they can 
> continue on with their work as usual when they need to, letting Mac OS X 
> manage processes and resources for them without quitting apps or manual 
> interaction through Activity Monitor.
> 
> You can Disable Automatic Termination in Mac OS X
> By entering a command in Terminal but I would prefer people to let the 
> operating system work as it is designed, so I won't give the terminal command 
> in my reply to WAMUG mailing list.
> 
> So Alan, you don't have any problems as far as I can understand by reading 
> your emails.
> Mountain Lion is not Windows, stop fiddling and things will work as they 
> should ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 03/12/2012, at 5:39 PM, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> The strange behaviour started when Mountain Lion was installed.    I 
>> normally have the following apps "active" in the Dock with just the white 
>> "led" indicator showing: Finder, Mail, Safari, iTunes, EyeTV, and (in recent 
>> weeks) Console.  I  always work with the minimum number of programs with 
>> open windows on the desktop.   To quit an active app with an open window I 
>> click on its red "traffic light".   My understanding is that if it is a 
>> "single window" program it will quit completely and not display a Dock 
>> "led".  If it is a multi-window program (e.g. Safari), the window will close 
>> but the Dock "led" will continue to display (and the app be ready for 
>> background activity).
>> 
>> Safari does not quit when I'm using it.  I finish my internet work, "red 
>> light" it, and do other things.  I come back to use Safari and notice the 
>> Dock "led" in not showing (sometimes).   Safari has completely quit all by 
>> itself.  Sometimes Safari is active when I leave the iMac to go to sleep, 
>> but has quitted when I re-awaken the computer (or does so shortly 
>> afterwards).   
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