Good point Ronni, and thanks Daniel too for clarifying. I will ask that 
question to Alsoft and see what their response is.

Reg

On 25/06/2013, at 10:15 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes Daniel you are correct.
> 
> I was also going to reply as I noticed that Reg did not mention to Alsoft 
> that his MacBook Pro had a SSD.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 25/06/2013, at 10:03 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Reg
>> 
>> Alsoft may say that (given they sell the product), though this link may help 
>> more
>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4092213?start=0&tstart=0>
>> Particularly this part
>> /quote
>> What you DONT need to do is worry about physical maintenance - 
>> "defragmentation" is pretty much irrelevant.
>> /end quote
>> SSD's don't store files the same way a normal spinning disk does. 
>> Just like you "can't" really do a secure erase files from an SSD. Once 
>> something is erased on it, it's gone. 
>> (Even if you boot off another drive, and try do a "secure erase" reformat of 
>> the drive, that option isn't readily available in Disk Utility,..or 
>> others,….).
>> This is one of the reasons backups with SSD's are very important, as once 
>> files are gone,..they're gone. So data recovery is a lot harder (if 
>> sometimes near impossible).
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> On 25/06/2013, at 9:53 PM, Reg Whitely <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi WAMUGgers
>>> 
>>> I post this message for your info and comment, especially regarding 
>>> Daniel's most recent reply to my query on the MacBook Issues thread.
>>> 
>>> Reg
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Alsoft Technical Support <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro 2013 Retina Disk Warrior compatibility
>>>> Date: 25 June 2013 9:26:40 pm AWST
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>>> Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by Reg
>>>>> Whitely ([email protected]) on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 at 03:37:33
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---
>>>>> 
>>>>> a_Product: DiskWarrior
>>>>> 
>>>>> b_Product_Version: 4.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> c_Product_Serial_Number: presales
>>>>> 
>>>>> d_Question_or_Problem: When will you release an update to Disk
>>>>> Warrior to provide a suitable start-up disk? Disk Warrior has been
>>>>> recommended to me but I'm reluctant to buy it until it is fully
>>>>> compatible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> g. Mac OS Version: Mac OS 10.8
>>>>> 
>>>>> h. Mac Model: MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013
>>>>> 
>>>>> i. Mac Processor: Intel
>>>>> 
>>>>> j. Mac RAM: 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---
>>>>> 
>>>>> IP Address: 121.45.229.26
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The DiskWarrior application is fully compatible with this computer, you 
>>>> simply cannot start up the computer from the DiskWarrior disc.
>>>> 
>>>> There is currently no DiskWarrior disc to start up this generation MacBook 
>>>> Pro.  All third-party developers are awaiting the delivery from Apple of a 
>>>> version of the operating system that can be run from a DVD, so that an 
>>>> updated disc can be created.
>>>> 
>>>> However, the DiskWarrior 4.4 application can be used with this machine.  
>>>> You simply cannot start up the computer from a DiskWarrior disc.
>>>> 
>>>> As such, you could utilize one of the following configurations after 
>>>> utilizing the downloadable 4.4 updater (However, this will still not 
>>>> create a disc that will start up your computer) at:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/diskwarriorupdate.html
>>>> 
>>>> (1)  Alternate Startup Disk
>>>> 
>>>> If you have an external drive such as...
>>>> 
>>>> FireWire (PowerPC or Intel)
>>>> USB2 or newer (Intel only)
>>>> Thunderbolt (Intel only)
>>>> 
>>>> Or a secondary internal drive or partition...
>>>> 
>>>> You can install Mac OS X (the version which shipped with your computer or 
>>>> higher) on that drive and start up the computer from the operating system 
>>>> on the external/secondary device.  Once you have started up the computer 
>>>> from the newly-installed operating system, install DiskWarrior into the 
>>>> "Utilities" folder (which is inside the "Applications" folder).  Then, you 
>>>> can launch DiskWarrior from the Utilities folder of the external/secondary 
>>>> device to rebuild the directory of the computer's main hard drive.
>>>> 
>>>> More information can be here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4718
>>>> 
>>>> (2)  Target Disk Mode:  Connect two Macs with a FireWire or Thunderbolt 
>>>> cable (not all options will be applicable depending on the model of your 
>>>> computer) where one is the "host" and the other is a "target".  The host 
>>>> Mac should be running OS X (10.4.x "Tiger" or higher).  In this scenario, 
>>>> the target Mac is the computer whose internal hard drive you want to 
>>>> repair.  Start by shutting down the target Mac.  Then turn it on while 
>>>> holding down the "T" key.  The target Mac's drive will appear as an option 
>>>> via the DiskWarrior interface.  Run DiskWarrior from the Utilities folder 
>>>> of the host Mac and rebuild the target Mac's disk.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Marc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Marc Moorash, Alsoft Technical Support
>>>> Email:  [email protected]
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