Hi WAMUGgers, especially Daniel and Ronni Here is the reply I received from Alsoft, for your observation and comment.
Happy reading Reg Begin forwarded message: > From: "Alsoft Technical Support" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro 2013 Retina Disk Warrior compatibility > Date: 26 June 2013 10:58:36 pm AWST > To: "Reg Whitely" <[email protected]> > > Whoever stated: > > "No point. Solid State Drives (SSD's) don't work the same as "normal drives" > so you won't gain any benefit from it, and in some cases can make it worse. > > ...has no idea what they are talking about. > > Further, this: > > "SSD's don't store files the same way a normal spinning disk does" > > ...is completely false. > > Both a traditional rotational hard drive, and an SSD, are going to be using > the HFS+ format when used with a Macintosh computer. > > As such, regardless of the type of media, the directory format is the same, > the directory structure is the same, and the problems that can occur with the > directory are the same. > > As such, using DiskWarrior will always provide a benefit and never make > things worse. > > Finally, for reference, DiskWarrior doesn't "defragment" a hard drive. > DiskWarrior rebuilds the directory (index of all of the files and folders). > These are two completely different tasks and actions. > > -- Marc > > >> Thanks Marc >> >> I've been reminded by others that I neglected to tell you my MacBook Pro has >> SSD. >> >> To quote: "No point. Solid State Drives (SSD's) don't work the same as >> "normal drives" so you won't gain any benefit from it, and in some cases can >> make it worse. >> >> So I wouldn't recommend Diskwarrior for that type of machine, or ones with >> SSD's at all." >> >> and >> >> "... this link may help more >> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4092213?start=0&tstart=0> >> Particularly this part >> /quote >> What you DONT need to do is worry about physical maintenance - >> "defragmentation" is pretty much irrelevant. >> /end quote >> SSD's don't store files the same way a normal spinning disk does. >> Just like you "can't" really do a secure erase files from an SSD. Once >> something is erased on it, it's gone. >> (Even if you boot off another drive, and try do a "secure erase" reformat of >> the drive, that option isn't readily available in Disk Utility,..or >> others,....). >> This is one of the reasons backups with SSD's are very important, as once >> files are gone,..they're gone. So data recovery is a lot harder (if >> sometimes near impossible)." >> >> What is your response to this? >> >> Reg >> >> >> On 25/06/2013, at 9:26 pm, Alsoft Technical Support >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Reg >>>> Whitely ([email protected]) on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 at 03:37:33 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> --- >>>> >>>> a_Product: DiskWarrior >>>> >>>> b_Product_Version: 4.4 >>>> >>>> c_Product_Serial_Number: presales >>>> >>>> d_Question_or_Problem: When will you release an update to Disk >>>> Warrior to provide a suitable start-up disk? Disk Warrior has been >>>> recommended to me but I'm reluctant to buy it until it is fully >>>> compatible. >>>> >>>> g. Mac OS Version: Mac OS 10.8 >>>> >>>> h. Mac Model: MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013 >>>> >>>> i. Mac Processor: Intel >>>> >>>> j. Mac RAM: 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> --- >>>> >>>> IP Address: 121.45.229.26 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> The DiskWarrior application is fully compatible with this computer, you >>> simply cannot start up the computer from the DiskWarrior disc. >>> >>> There is currently no DiskWarrior disc to start up this generation MacBook >>> Pro. All third-party developers are awaiting the delivery from Apple of a >>> version of the operating system that can be run from a DVD, so that an >>> updated disc can be created. >>> >>> However, the DiskWarrior 4.4 application can be used with this machine. >>> You simply cannot start up the computer from a DiskWarrior disc. >>> >>> As such, you could utilize one of the following configurations after >>> utilizing the downloadable 4.4 updater (However, this will still not create >>> a disc that will start up your computer) at: >>> >>> http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/diskwarriorupdate.html >>> >>> (1) Alternate Startup Disk >>> >>> If you have an external drive such as... >>> >>> FireWire (PowerPC or Intel) >>> USB2 or newer (Intel only) >>> Thunderbolt (Intel only) >>> >>> Or a secondary internal drive or partition... >>> >>> You can install Mac OS X (the version which shipped with your computer or >>> higher) on that drive and start up the computer from the operating system >>> on the external/secondary device. Once you have started up the computer >>> from the newly-installed operating system, install DiskWarrior into the >>> "Utilities" folder (which is inside the "Applications" folder). Then, you >>> can launch DiskWarrior from the Utilities folder of the external/secondary >>> device to rebuild the directory of the computer's main hard drive. >>> >>> More information can be here: >>> >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4718 >>> >>> (2) Target Disk Mode: Connect two Macs with a FireWire or Thunderbolt >>> cable (not all options will be applicable depending on the model of your >>> computer) where one is the "host" and the other is a "target". The host >>> Mac should be running OS X (10.4.x "Tiger" or higher). In this scenario, >>> the target Mac is the computer whose internal hard drive you want to >>> repair. Start by shutting down the target Mac. Then turn it on while >>> holding down the "T" key. The target Mac's drive will appear as an option >>> via the DiskWarrior interface. Run DiskWarrior from the Utilities folder >>> of the host Mac and rebuild the target Mac's disk. >>> >>> -- Marc >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Marc Moorash, Alsoft Technical Support >>> Email: [email protected] >>> >> >> Reg Whitely >> >> Home: 08 9921 7272 >> Mob: 04 8899 7313 >> Email: [email protected] >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Marc Moorash, Alsoft Technical Support > Email: [email protected] > Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: [email protected]
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