Hi Reg As Ronni has mentioned, Alsoft will most likely come back and say that yes it's fine with SSD's. Which in theory it may be, but in practice there's really no need. Sure it "may" run fine with the drive and appear to do something, but beneath the surface it's really not doing that much.
It would be a bit like me selling you insurance for snow protection in WA. Sure it may be "fine" to have, but you're really not going to gain any benefit from it,…..as it just doesn't happen. :o) (not a great example, but best I could think of at the moment,…lol). I run 3 SSD's on different machines and all run as well as the day I put them in, with no other maintenance run on it, bar Disk Utility File Permissions once in a blue moon (or after an update). But I back them up as well, as if an SSD falls over, it really falls over. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** On 26/06/2013, at 9:47 AM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Reg, > > Alsoft's response will be that DiskWarrior can be safely used with an SSD > device. > Alsoft will (&do) mention that DiskWarrior can be used on solid-state-drives > (SSD). > /Quote from Alsoft Support site: > "The directory > structure of a Solid State Drive, is the same as a more “traditional” hard > drive - they both use HFS+ (Mac OS Extended). > > > As such, DiskWarrior can be safely used with an SSD device." > /End Quote > > I personally would not recommend using DiskWarrior with SSD Drives as you > could damage your data. > > SSD drives do not need the same kind of maintenance that hard drives require. > MacWorld Magazine has done a number of torture tests on Apple's SSD drives > and after millions of writes and rewrites and deleting data the drives did > not experience any loss of speed in reading or writing data, nor did they > suffer any deterioration. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > On 26/06/2013, at 8:32 AM, Reg Whitely <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good point Ronni, and thanks Daniel too for clarifying. I will ask that >> question to Alsoft and see what their response is. >> >> Reg >> >> On 25/06/2013, at 10:15 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes Daniel you are correct. >>> >>> I was also going to reply as I noticed that Reg did not mention to Alsoft >>> that his MacBook Pro had a SSD. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> On 25/06/2013, at 10:03 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Reg >>>> >>>> Alsoft may say that (given they sell the product), though this link may >>>> help more >>>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4092213?start=0&tstart=0> >>>> Particularly this part >>>> /quote >>>> What you DONT need to do is worry about physical maintenance - >>>> "defragmentation" is pretty much irrelevant. >>>> /end quote >>>> SSD's don't store files the same way a normal spinning disk does. >>>> Just like you "can't" really do a secure erase files from an SSD. Once >>>> something is erased on it, it's gone. >>>> (Even if you boot off another drive, and try do a "secure erase" reformat >>>> of the drive, that option isn't readily available in Disk Utility,..or >>>> others,….). >>>> This is one of the reasons backups with SSD's are very important, as once >>>> files are gone,..they're gone. So data recovery is a lot harder (if >>>> sometimes near impossible). >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Apple** >>>> >>>> On 25/06/2013, at 9:53 PM, Reg Whitely <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi WAMUGgers >>>>> >>>>> I post this message for your info and comment, especially regarding >>>>> Daniel's most recent reply to my query on the MacBook Issues thread. >>>>> >>>>> Reg >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Alsoft Technical Support <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro 2013 Retina Disk Warrior compatibility >>>>>> Date: 25 June 2013 9:26:40 pm AWST >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Reg >>>>>>> Whitely ([email protected]) on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 at 03:37:33 >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a_Product: DiskWarrior >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b_Product_Version: 4.4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> c_Product_Serial_Number: presales >>>>>>> >>>>>>> d_Question_or_Problem: When will you release an update to Disk >>>>>>> Warrior to provide a suitable start-up disk? Disk Warrior has been >>>>>>> recommended to me but I'm reluctant to buy it until it is fully >>>>>>> compatible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> g. Mac OS Version: Mac OS 10.8 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> h. Mac Model: MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i. Mac Processor: Intel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> j. Mac RAM: 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IP Address: 121.45.229.26 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The DiskWarrior application is fully compatible with this computer, you >>>>>> simply cannot start up the computer from the DiskWarrior disc. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is currently no DiskWarrior disc to start up this generation >>>>>> MacBook Pro. All third-party developers are awaiting the delivery from >>>>>> Apple of a version of the operating system that can be run from a DVD, >>>>>> so that an updated disc can be created. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, the DiskWarrior 4.4 application can be used with this machine. >>>>>> You simply cannot start up the computer from a DiskWarrior disc. >>>>>> >>>>>> As such, you could utilize one of the following configurations after >>>>>> utilizing the downloadable 4.4 updater (However, this will still not >>>>>> create a disc that will start up your computer) at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/diskwarriorupdate.html >>>>>> >>>>>> (1) Alternate Startup Disk >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have an external drive such as... >>>>>> >>>>>> FireWire (PowerPC or Intel) >>>>>> USB2 or newer (Intel only) >>>>>> Thunderbolt (Intel only) >>>>>> >>>>>> Or a secondary internal drive or partition... >>>>>> >>>>>> You can install Mac OS X (the version which shipped with your computer >>>>>> or higher) on that drive and start up the computer from the operating >>>>>> system on the external/secondary device. Once you have started up the >>>>>> computer from the newly-installed operating system, install DiskWarrior >>>>>> into the "Utilities" folder (which is inside the "Applications" folder). >>>>>> Then, you can launch DiskWarrior from the Utilities folder of the >>>>>> external/secondary device to rebuild the directory of the computer's >>>>>> main hard drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> More information can be here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4718 >>>>>> >>>>>> (2) Target Disk Mode: Connect two Macs with a FireWire or Thunderbolt >>>>>> cable (not all options will be applicable depending on the model of your >>>>>> computer) where one is the "host" and the other is a "target". The host >>>>>> Mac should be running OS X (10.4.x "Tiger" or higher). In this >>>>>> scenario, the target Mac is the computer whose internal hard drive you >>>>>> want to repair. Start by shutting down the target Mac. Then turn it on >>>>>> while holding down the "T" key. The target Mac's drive will appear as >>>>>> an option via the DiskWarrior interface. Run DiskWarrior from the >>>>>> Utilities folder of the host Mac and rebuild the target Mac's disk. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Marc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> Marc Moorash, Alsoft Technical Support >>>>>> Email: [email protected]> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
