Ok Daniel, thanks for that lengthy email there. I was not aware till then that 
the MBP retina didn't have ethernet. That's odd but I suppose it's because of 
customer feedback. 

When I think about it my wife's 2013 MBP 13" non retina which has ethernet, the 
ethernet port never actually gets used, so there's really no difference. It 
takes a bit of getting used to the idea.

I will have to go and have a look at a retina I think to see if getting retina 
[for me] is worth the extra $$ PLUS discarding the superdrive and ethernet as 
well.

Regards


Pete

On 16/08/2013, at 8:25 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Pete
> 
> I'm still not sold on the Retina machines just yet. I'm waiting for the new 
> versions and more things to be developed to take full advantage of it all. 
> (And the "true" Retina resolution does run slightly lower then the normal 
> resolution, though it can go "higher").
> The Retina machines don't have SuperDrives, or Firewire, or Ethernet. These 
> are all "add on's" if you want those features. These were generally removed 
> for a) space and b) some people don't use them or need them.
> Wether it's worth it or a not,…comes down to each person.
> 
> With my clients it depends on their usage as to what suits. But for most of 
> the people I source them for, they generally go for the normal MacBook Pro's 
> and then spec them up with SSD drives and more RAM (16GB), as quite a lot of 
> clients I know still want or use the SuperDrive and don't want to be carrying 
> it around with them. So for them, having it built in is worth the little bit 
> extra weight. (as well as having the Firewire and Ethernet built in, instead 
> of as adapters). But again, each person has different usages or want they 
> want.
> For me personally, I still find I need to have everything in the machine, so 
> I have a normal MacBookPro specced up with 16GB RAM and an SSD drive. (and 
> the 15" Hi Res Antiglare screen). But at home I use the 27" LED screen as 
> well. I find when out on jobs sometimes i need to use Firewire for things, 
> Ethernet for networks and burn or read things from CD/DVD. So for me, that 
> was the "better option" to get it all built in. Yes, I could carry around 
> adapters and drives etc,…but I already carry 10 million things, without 
> adding to it. (Even though I do have to carry all those adapters for client 
> machines just in case).
> I personally also like the idea of being able to upgrade items on the machine 
> if I want to as well, i.e. if an SSD comes out super cheap then I can put in 
> a larger one. With the Retina Display ones you have to do it all at the time 
> of purchase as you can't change anything later on.
> But again, it's all done to personal choice. Though I think the way they're 
> going, the "normal" MacBook Pro will get phased out and the only choice will 
> be the Retina Display…………...
> 
> And yes, external drives are pretty cheap. The Apple one (USB2 SuperDrive is 
> $89) and I've been selling a Samsung one (USB3) which is a bit faster and 
> just as good for $69 (RRP $89), so I've found them to be quite popular with 
> the iMac's and laptops with no burner. Otherwise if you have a DVD on another 
> machine you can always do Remote Disc sharing.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
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> On 16/08/2013, at 11:44 AM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Daniel, yes i like the 27" Thunderbolt displays. i have an iTunes 
>> library around 220GB and photos >50GB, so 256GB no good for me and no doubt 
>> they will get bigger not smaller.
>> 
>> Do you feel that the extra cost of the retina is worth it over the 
>> non-retina MBP in 13". I always wondered why the retina machine doesn't have 
>> the Superdrive built in. Any reason? I suppose out of habit I will find it 
>> hard to go without a Superdrive but lots of other machines in the house if I 
>> need to burn something - or just buy an external USB Superdrive.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 15/08/2013, at 9:57 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pete
>>> 
>>> The 27" LED screens are great, well worth it. I use one with my laptop when 
>>> at home and recommend them. And when you compare the price (For what you 
>>> get) to comparable other non-Apple models they aren't actually "that" 
>>> expensive.
>>> 
>>> If you store a lot of stuff then yes, the 512GB Flash Drive is worth it , 
>>> and they've come down quite a bit. Just depends how much you store actually 
>>> on the machine versus carry a USB drive around with you.
>>> (I was going to suggest the 16GB RAM as well, but then remembered you can't 
>>> go that high on the 13" model, it's only on the 15" model you can,…so I 
>>> changed that,…hehe).
>>> And unfortunately with the Retina Display laptops (like the Air's as well), 
>>> you can't really add things later on.  What you buy upfront are the specs 
>>> you'll have for the life of the laptop. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
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>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
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