Hi Peter,

I use and find this website is very good to check details and comparisons 
between models. 
You might find it helpful:

What are all the differences between the 13-Inch "Late 2012" Retina Display 
MacBook Pro models and the regular "Mid-2012" 13-Inch MacBook Pro and MacBook 
Air? Which is best for me?

There is a good Comparison Chart near the bottom.

<http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/macbook-pro-retina-display-faq/differences-between-macbook-pro-retina-display-13-inch-nonretina-macbook-air-2012.html>

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 16/08/2013, at 9:39 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok Daniel, thanks for that lengthy email there. I was not aware till then 
> that the MBP retina didn't have ethernet. That's odd but I suppose it's 
> because of customer feedback. 
> 
> When I think about it my wife's 2013 MBP 13" non retina which has ethernet, 
> the ethernet port never actually gets used, so there's really no difference. 
> It takes a bit of getting used to the idea.
> 
> I will have to go and have a look at a retina I think to see if getting 
> retina [for me] is worth the extra $$ PLUS discarding the superdrive and 
> ethernet as well.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 16/08/2013, at 8:25 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pete
>> 
>> I'm still not sold on the Retina machines just yet. I'm waiting for the new 
>> versions and more things to be developed to take full advantage of it all. 
>> (And the "true" Retina resolution does run slightly lower then the normal 
>> resolution, though it can go "higher").
>> The Retina machines don't have SuperDrives, or Firewire, or Ethernet. These 
>> are all "add on's" if you want those features. These were generally removed 
>> for a) space and b) some people don't use them or need them.
>> Wether it's worth it or a not,…comes down to each person.
>> 
>> With my clients it depends on their usage as to what suits. But for most of 
>> the people I source them for, they generally go for the normal MacBook Pro's 
>> and then spec them up with SSD drives and more RAM (16GB), as quite a lot of 
>> clients I know still want or use the SuperDrive and don't want to be 
>> carrying it around with them. So for them, having it built in is worth the 
>> little bit extra weight. (as well as having the Firewire and Ethernet built 
>> in, instead of as adapters). But again, each person has different usages or 
>> want they want.
>> For me personally, I still find I need to have everything in the machine, so 
>> I have a normal MacBookPro specced up with 16GB RAM and an SSD drive. (and 
>> the 15" Hi Res Antiglare screen). But at home I use the 27" LED screen as 
>> well. I find when out on jobs sometimes i need to use Firewire for things, 
>> Ethernet for networks and burn or read things from CD/DVD. So for me, that 
>> was the "better option" to get it all built in. Yes, I could carry around 
>> adapters and drives etc,…but I already carry 10 million things, without 
>> adding to it. (Even though I do have to carry all those adapters for client 
>> machines just in case).
>> I personally also like the idea of being able to upgrade items on the 
>> machine if I want to as well, i.e. if an SSD comes out super cheap then I 
>> can put in a larger one. With the Retina Display ones you have to do it all 
>> at the time of purchase as you can't change anything later on.
>> But again, it's all done to personal choice. Though I think the way they're 
>> going, the "normal" MacBook Pro will get phased out and the only choice will 
>> be the Retina Display…………...
>> 
>> And yes, external drives are pretty cheap. The Apple one (USB2 SuperDrive is 
>> $89) and I've been selling a Samsung one (USB3) which is a bit faster and 
>> just as good for $69 (RRP $89), so I've found them to be quite popular with 
>> the iMac's and laptops with no burner. Otherwise if you have a DVD on 
>> another machine you can always do Remote Disc sharing.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
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>> On 16/08/2013, at 11:44 AM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Daniel, yes i like the 27" Thunderbolt displays. i have an iTunes 
>>> library around 220GB and photos >50GB, so 256GB no good for me and no doubt 
>>> they will get bigger not smaller.
>>> 
>>> Do you feel that the extra cost of the retina is worth it over the 
>>> non-retina MBP in 13". I always wondered why the retina machine doesn't 
>>> have the Superdrive built in. Any reason? I suppose out of habit I will 
>>> find it hard to go without a Superdrive but lots of other machines in the 
>>> house if I need to burn something - or just buy an external USB Superdrive.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>> On 15/08/2013, at 9:57 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Pete
>>>> 
>>>> The 27" LED screens are great, well worth it. I use one with my laptop 
>>>> when at home and recommend them. And when you compare the price (For what 
>>>> you get) to comparable other non-Apple models they aren't actually "that" 
>>>> expensive.
>>>> 
>>>> If you store a lot of stuff then yes, the 512GB Flash Drive is worth it , 
>>>> and they've come down quite a bit. Just depends how much you store 
>>>> actually on the machine versus carry a USB drive around with you.
>>>> (I was going to suggest the 16GB RAM as well, but then remembered you 
>>>> can't go that high on the 13" model, it's only on the 15" model you 
>>>> can,…so I changed that,…hehe).
>>>> And unfortunately with the Retina Display laptops (like the Air's as 
>>>> well), you can't really add things later on.  What you buy upfront are the 
>>>> specs you'll have for the life of the laptop. 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>> ---
>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>> MacWizardry
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion 
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>>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, 
>>>> that permission by the author be requested.
>>> 
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