Thanks for the link Ronni, I am certainly undecided at this point. I will check them both in the shop (Retina and non-retina) and that may help sway me. I am off to the USA/Canada in Sept/October and when I return hopefully the Haswell business is released by then or soon after. Either way I will wait for that release.
Then hopefully there is an updated comparison chart to help me decide. Regards Pete On 17/08/2013, at 10:38 AM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I use and find this website is very good to check details and comparisons > between models. > You might find it helpful: > > What are all the differences between the 13-Inch "Late 2012" Retina Display > MacBook Pro models and the regular "Mid-2012" 13-Inch MacBook Pro and MacBook > Air? Which is best for me? > > There is a good Comparison Chart near the bottom. > > <http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/macbook-pro-retina-display-faq/differences-between-macbook-pro-retina-display-13-inch-nonretina-macbook-air-2012.html> > > Cheers, > Ronni > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > On 16/08/2013, at 9:39 PM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ok Daniel, thanks for that lengthy email there. I was not aware till then >> that the MBP retina didn't have ethernet. That's odd but I suppose it's >> because of customer feedback. >> >> When I think about it my wife's 2013 MBP 13" non retina which has ethernet, >> the ethernet port never actually gets used, so there's really no difference. >> It takes a bit of getting used to the idea. >> >> I will have to go and have a look at a retina I think to see if getting >> retina [for me] is worth the extra $$ PLUS discarding the superdrive and >> ethernet as well. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Pete >> >> On 16/08/2013, at 8:25 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Pete >>> >>> I'm still not sold on the Retina machines just yet. I'm waiting for the new >>> versions and more things to be developed to take full advantage of it all. >>> (And the "true" Retina resolution does run slightly lower then the normal >>> resolution, though it can go "higher"). >>> The Retina machines don't have SuperDrives, or Firewire, or Ethernet. These >>> are all "add on's" if you want those features. These were generally removed >>> for a) space and b) some people don't use them or need them. >>> Wether it's worth it or a not,…comes down to each person. >>> >>> With my clients it depends on their usage as to what suits. But for most of >>> the people I source them for, they generally go for the normal MacBook >>> Pro's and then spec them up with SSD drives and more RAM (16GB), as quite a >>> lot of clients I know still want or use the SuperDrive and don't want to be >>> carrying it around with them. So for them, having it built in is worth the >>> little bit extra weight. (as well as having the Firewire and Ethernet built >>> in, instead of as adapters). But again, each person has different usages or >>> want they want. >>> For me personally, I still find I need to have everything in the machine, >>> so I have a normal MacBookPro specced up with 16GB RAM and an SSD drive. >>> (and the 15" Hi Res Antiglare screen). But at home I use the 27" LED screen >>> as well. I find when out on jobs sometimes i need to use Firewire for >>> things, Ethernet for networks and burn or read things from CD/DVD. So for >>> me, that was the "better option" to get it all built in. Yes, I could carry >>> around adapters and drives etc,…but I already carry 10 million things, >>> without adding to it. (Even though I do have to carry all those adapters >>> for client machines just in case). >>> I personally also like the idea of being able to upgrade items on the >>> machine if I want to as well, i.e. if an SSD comes out super cheap then I >>> can put in a larger one. With the Retina Display ones you have to do it all >>> at the time of purchase as you can't change anything later on. >>> But again, it's all done to personal choice. Though I think the way they're >>> going, the "normal" MacBook Pro will get phased out and the only choice >>> will be the Retina Display…………... >>> >>> And yes, external drives are pretty cheap. The Apple one (USB2 SuperDrive >>> is $89) and I've been selling a Samsung one (USB3) which is a bit faster >>> and just as good for $69 (RRP $89), so I've found them to be quite popular >>> with the iMac's and laptops with no burner. Otherwise if you have a DVD on >>> another machine you can always do Remote Disc sharing. >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and >>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of >>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>> that permission by the author be requested. >>> >>> On 16/08/2013, at 11:44 AM, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Daniel, yes i like the 27" Thunderbolt displays. i have an iTunes >>>> library around 220GB and photos >50GB, so 256GB no good for me and no >>>> doubt they will get bigger not smaller. >>>> >>>> Do you feel that the extra cost of the retina is worth it over the >>>> non-retina MBP in 13". I always wondered why the retina machine doesn't >>>> have the Superdrive built in. Any reason? I suppose out of habit I will >>>> find it hard to go without a Superdrive but lots of other machines in the >>>> house if I need to burn something - or just buy an external USB Superdrive. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> On 15/08/2013, at 9:57 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Pete >>>>> >>>>> The 27" LED screens are great, well worth it. I use one with my laptop >>>>> when at home and recommend them. And when you compare the price (For what >>>>> you get) to comparable other non-Apple models they aren't actually "that" >>>>> expensive. >>>>> >>>>> If you store a lot of stuff then yes, the 512GB Flash Drive is worth it , >>>>> and they've come down quite a bit. Just depends how much you store >>>>> actually on the machine versus carry a USB drive around with you. >>>>> (I was going to suggest the 16GB RAM as well, but then remembered you >>>>> can't go that high on the 13" model, it's only on the 15" model you >>>>> can,…so I changed that,…hehe). >>>>> And unfortunately with the Retina Display laptops (like the Air's as >>>>> well), you can't really add things later on. What you buy upfront are >>>>> the specs you'll have for the life of the laptop. >>>>> >>>>> Hope that helps. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Daniel >>>>> --- >>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>> MacWizardry >>>>> >>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>> >>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>>> MacWizardry. 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