Hi Alan,

> On 3 Jun 2015, at 11:20 am, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> Thanks for responses but issues still remain.  Comments insitu below (in your 
> two messages).
> 
> Original problem of the devices not displaying correct date of WiFi backup is 
> not resolved, but is no longer an issue as I have changed to USB backups.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2015, at 2:34 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Alan when you connect your iPad to iTunes via USB cable it should backup 
>> automatically and then sync automatically.
>> You don't go to File > Devices… 
> 
> Apple Support article “How to backup your devices using iCloud or iTunes” 
> shows only the File > Devices > Backup procedure. 

Under File > Devices - you have options to Sync “xxx device” - Transfer 
Purchases from “xxx device” - Back Up or Restore
> 
>> Check in iTunes > Preferences  - Devices that you DON'T have 
>> 'Prevent iPods, iPhones, and iPads from syncing automatically' selected.
> 
> I DO have the option ticked to 'Prevent iPods, iPhones, and iPads from 
> syncing automatically’.  I do NOT want my iOS devices to sync/backup 
> automatically when connected via USB.  What if iPad had bad data or needed a 
> reset or restore?

iTunes automatically ‘backs up & syncs' your device when you connect it to your 
computer. 
If you look at the top of the window when your device is connected you will see 
Syncing > Backing Up (Step 1 of 8) then syncing, transferring etc until Step 8 
is completed.
But you can also back up your device manually at any time.
You can set things to backup automatically either to your computer (iTunes) or 
to iCloud, but not both.

If you choose automatic backup to "this computer" in iTunes, and then set the 
prefs on the iPad/iPhone to automatically back up to iCloud, it will warn you 
that you are no longer automatically backing up to your computer (and next time 
you look in iTunes, the setting to automatic iCloud backups will have 
automatically updated from your iPhone setting, or the other way around).
 
Regardless of which you chose in iTunes for automatically backup, you can 
manually backup to your computer (iTunes) from iTunes using the "Backup Now" 
button. 

So what issues still remain?

Cheers,
Ronni

> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2015, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> 
>>> Connect your iPad to your Mac using the USB cable
>>> Open iTunes (if it doesn't open automatically) 
>>> When the iPad appears in left sidebar, select it.
>>> Backups : select 'this computer' - click 'Back Up Now’
> 
> Apple Support article “About backups in iCloud and iTunes” states "Syncing 
> your device with your computer isn’t the same as making a backup”.   Can you 
> resolve this?  You advise to use the “Back Up Now” button.  But the “Backup" 
> button, the “Sync” button AND the “Apply” button (that appears if items have 
> been changed) all seem to perform a complete backup AND sync.  I’m confused!
> 
>>> After it completes backup you should see under - Latest Backup:
>>> 'Today x:xxpm to this computer'
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Jun 2015, at 12:46 pm, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> After syncing both my iPad 2 and iPhone 5 to iTunes the “last backup” 
>>>> dates on the iOS device did not change.   iOS 8.3 is installed on both 
>>>> devices.    iTunes backup details appear to have updated OK.  Using iTunes 
>>>> 12.1.2.27 and OSX 10.10.3.   This is the first sync with Yosemite.
>>>> 
>>>> I am also puzzled by the "correct” procedure for USB syncing.  Following a 
>>>> couple of years of frustration with the WiFi method, I intended to 
>>>> complete the sync/backup process then change both devices from WiFi to USB 
>>>> syncing.  Did a WiFi sync for the iPad first then noted the date did not 
>>>> change on the device.   I changed the iTunes setup for the iPhone to 
>>>> create a USB backup, hoping it would reflect the correct backup date on 
>>>> the device.  However this too still retained the date for the previous 
>>>> backup.
>>>> 
>>>> The WiFi sync option for devices only has one (sync) option which syncs, 
>>>> backs up and transfers apps.  I note that the iTunes device display (main 
>>>> window) has separate buttons for syncing and backing up.  Are these two 
>>>> separate processes to be run in tandem?   Also noted that the iTunes menu 
>>>> bar (file/devices) has another option to transfer purchases.  Is this a 
>>>> third process for the iTunes-USB method?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Smith
>>>> Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.10.3 
>>>> Yosemite
>>>> Late 2009 iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.10.3 
>>>> Yosemite
>>>> iPhone5;  iPad2;  ATV2

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