Time, I don’t think its necessary to be forced by Apple to do anything. I use Bing to search and unless I clear all sites after doing so I notice ads popping up for service I was previously searching for. Kill off Cookies! iCloud? Extremely useful for finding a lost phone, but not much else.
Bill > On 2 Jan 2017, at 12:05, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: > > Michael my recollection from the last month, was that prior to me making a > decision to use iCloud to sync my Photos, that I used iTunes, which I > understand is the default, or at least was the only option for many years. > > This worked fine, but for the reasons I have already stated, I chose to use > iCloud for Photos, and in fact, for the full suite of its capacity - > Keychain, Find my iPhone, Contacts, Calendar etc. Now the ‘stuck’ issue > has been resolved, it works fine for me, and as I said, my recollection is > that using anything to sync is optional - iTunes still works across the home > network and for years did this without fuss and no use of external data. > Yes, I do live and function within constant access to 4G coverage and cable > broadband. I also travel remotely and prepare myself for the inevitable loss > of connectivity by ensuring I have local copies of data I may need. I > understand not everyone is as privileged as I am. Sadly, I cannot resolve > this, but I do believe Apple accommodates by giving syncing options that are > quite reasonable. > > I’m not sure Apple is forcing anyone to do anything - choosing iTunes, or > iCloud, or nothing to sync photos or other choices is the user choice. If > you have found iCloud syncing is turned on by default, I would be surprised > as I found I needed to sign into iCloud for all this to work, and during that > sign in process, there are options I had to tick, or untick to select my > options. > > I’ve never found anything I have loaded to my Apple servers being used for > commercial gain “that I know about”. I find it amusing that many people, not > saying you’re in this group Michael, use a free platform such as Facebook for > an enormous amount of personal data. It’s all free, zilch, no cost, same as > Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat etc etc and then there is an outcry when these > companies need to make money to continue to provide this free platform. They > get money from advertising that tracks our usage and viewing habits and > targets advertising to ’suit’ us. I’m sure Google Maps, or TomTom sell data > to transport planners that they collect as we use route directions on > connected GPS devices. Is this not the same thing as using our information > for commercial gain? > > My recollection of the Census fiasco was that no data was lost nor corrupted. > There were connection issues that we all experienced, but there was no data > loss nor hacking. > > I am sorry you are frustrated Michael, but this is drifting well away from my > original query about the technical aspects of me using iCloud. As I see it, > you DO have choices and iCloud is not set by default. There are many things > to get frustrated about in the world, there appears to be no reason to make > this one more of them. > > Best wishes for the New Year. > > Tim > > > >> On 1 Jan 2017, at 10:40 AM, Michael Hawkins >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Tim. What underpinned my email was my frustration with what I see as >> Apple's less than open tactic of making uploading to iCloud the default >> setting when iOS updates are released. I don't know what the privacy laws >> are in whichever Country the server is housed, and the debacle with the >> Australian census last year illustrates that no system is safe from database >> corruption. >> >> If someone has more than one Apple device and wants to share content between >> the devices or make it possible for one device to access another, it should >> be that person's decision to set the system up so that that can be done. >> >> We don't all live in a location with ready Internet access, or quick upload >> and download speeds. Nor do we all live in a place where access to the >> Internet is cheap. >> >> In other words the decision to transmit data over the internet should be a >> conscious deliberate decision made by the person who owns the data, and >> causing the data to be uploaded by default for commercial gain is >> reprehensible. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Michael >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 1 Jan 2017, at 10:14 am, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Fair question Michael, >>> >>> The advantage of iCloud syncing as I see it, is that you can have one >>> ‘master’ computer where you download and store the originals photos, AS >>> WELL AS storing the full sized versions on the cloud. This enables Time >>> Machine and Super Duper to back up the photos if iCloud flies away into >>> dark matter. I’ve lost many photos before due to hard disk failure and >>> don’t want to go through that again. >>> >>> The other advantage is that it only downloads smaller images to all the >>> other devices, sized to suit that device. The entire photo library is on >>> each of these devices, all 15000, not like using Photo Stream which only >>> put 1000 photos on the mobile devices. I am not likely to NEED to view >>> all those on the other devices, but inevitably when I wanted to show >>> someone a photo from a year before for example, when using Photo Stream, >>> and iTunes sync, it was not in either folder. >>> >>> I did try to do what you suggest, but the MacBook Pro did not have enough >>> storage capacity for the full Photos Library, and there was really no need >>> to have more than one computer with full sized images. If you need to edit >>> or print the full sized images, they are downloaded from iCloud as needed >>> to the specific device. >>> >>> I trust this explains my logic. >>> >>> I have stopped taking photos in RAW which complicates matters somewhat when >>> sharing via iCloud. What I have found is that a photo that has both JPEG >>> and RAW version is impossible to select between in iOS devices. So if I >>> want to attach a photo to an email, it must be in JPEG not RAW, and several >>> times I have done it, only the RAW version - at some 20mb - is able to be >>> attached. I’m now taking full sized JPEG instead and these run to around >>> 8mb per image, and the size is managed by Mail when sending. I am not sure >>> if there is a way around the way iCloud manages RAW image syncing to iOS >>> devices - happy to hear suggestions. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>>> On 31 Dec 2016, at 8:45 PM, Michael Hawkins >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Pardon me for asking this, but wouldn't have been faster and simpler to >>>> physically connect one computer to the other? >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 31 Dec 2016, at 1:07 pm, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Update. For the benefit of anyone else having similar problems with >>>>> iCloud syncing ‘stuck’. >>>>> >>>>> I now have a reasonable degree of confidence that Photos has been sorted >>>>> and will now correctly sync with iCloud over four devices. >>>>> This has not been the easy process I had expected. I discovered that >>>>> creating a new library I could keep the original library and not risk >>>>> losing data. Only one library can be the ‘system library’ and sync with >>>>> iCloud. >>>>> >>>>> I have one computer that is ticked to download originals and that >>>>> computer is now showing ‘all up to date’ in Photos. Yay. >>>>> >>>>> My mobile devices have always synced well with iCloud and update any >>>>> changes immediately. >>>>> >>>>> My laptop had been refusing to sync correctly with iCloud and was stuck >>>>> for a week. After signing out of iCloud, restarting the computer in Safe >>>>> Mode, then restarting again in normal mode, rebuilding the Photo Library >>>>> with no change, I ended up creating a new Library, then turned iCloud >>>>> syncing back on and it is currently downloading the contents of my iCloud >>>>> photo gallery, some 50Gb, so will take a while. >>>>> >>>>> I lost track of how many times I found Photos trying to upload the >>>>> entire 15000 photos to iCloud, at least five, and am grateful to have a >>>>> 1000Gb plan with Bigpond on cable so had the capacity for such nonsense. >>>>> >>>>> I expect my problems are now on the way to being resolved. Looking >>>>> forward to happy Photos syncing in the New Year. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Dec 2016, at 7:28 PM, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> EEEk,,, :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> Restarted Mac Mini. >>>>>> This got the upload moving again - yay. >>>>>> >>>>>> "uploading 100 to go" >>>>>> "50 to go" looking good. >>>>>> "uploading 1 item" >>>>>> >>>>>> Success I’m thinking. >>>>>> Suddenly it is uploading 15,827 items - AGAIN! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sigh ….. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve quit Photos and will see what mood it is in tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2016, at 6:35 PM, Tim Law <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good evening, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am hoping to find out how to reset the sync data to force one >>>>>>> computer to reset the sync data for loading Photos to iCloud >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Two weeks, or more, ago, I turned on iCloud storage for Photos on four >>>>>>> devices. >>>>>>> All are logged into the same iCloud account, although some are @me.com >>>>>>> and some are @mac.com email address names. I understand this is >>>>>>> insignificant. I have checked at https://appleid.apple.com/ and found >>>>>>> all four devices are logged into the same Apple ID >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mac Mini - 10.11.6 Cannot be upgraded to Sierra >>>>>>> Mac Book Pro macOS 10.12.1 >>>>>>> iPhone 6S iOS 10.1.1 >>>>>>> iPad Air 2 iOS 10.1.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In order to keep a current back-up, I have turned on ‘Download >>>>>>> originals to this Mac’ on the Mac Mini which is my ‘main’ computer. >>>>>>> Data is backed up using Time Machine and Super Duper. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the mobile devices have the same number of photos and videos as >>>>>>> each other and as is https://www.icloud.com/#photos2 which is 15,003 >>>>>>> The Mac Mini registers it should have 14752. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac Mini is Stuck at uploading an extra 1878 photos and has been >>>>>>> for over 24 hours. This is the second time this has happened and it has >>>>>>> taken a week to upload the 55Gb of data a second time. Photo’s >>>>>>> triggered itself into a reload of all photos after I turned off iCloud >>>>>>> Photo Library in an effort to get the devices correctly syncing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I delete, or add, a photo to any of the mobile devices, it is >>>>>>> shared to the other mobile devices quickly. >>>>>>> Photos on the Mac Mini has kept several photos that have been deleted >>>>>>> for days on the other devices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> During the week I can see the CPU working hard on iCloud or Photos, >>>>>>> then I see the upload loading to iCloud. It varies between activity on >>>>>>> both, but once ‘stuck’ on 1878 to go, there is no activity showing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have tried the Pause for One Day button in Photos but nothing forces >>>>>>> the reset and correction as I thought it would. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I need to find a file that contains the sync data and remove it >>>>>>> as I suspect it has got corrupted somehow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there such a file and are my ideas sensible or is there another >>>>>>> option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve been patient for two or more weeks with Photos and iCloud - like >>>>>>> the forums suggest - now is the time for a hammer!! kidding >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ideas welcome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What about turning off iCloud Photo Library, deleting all the photos in >>>>>>> the Mac Mini library….. eeeek….. and then turning it back on again so >>>>>>> all the 55Gb will download. 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